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Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by notriddle »

WC3w6pXxgGd wrote: post #99
newscracker wrote: post #91

Use uBlock Origin, Multi Account Containers, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes and CookieAutoDelete with Firefox. Make sure you aggressively clear cache, cookies, etc., periodically (with CookieAutoDelete). You’ll probably load the web servers more and also add more traffic on your network, but it will help protect your privacy since most websites don’t care about that. When websites are user hostile, you have to take pr…

Why not use Brave? It has all of this, with Fingerprint protection turned on by default.

Because cryptocurrency is a scam.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by smcl »

brokensegue wrote: post #147
paulpauper wrote: post #6

Twitter uses these type of cookies. They even use cookies that do not contain any reference to the twitter domain. It is how they track people who have been suspended on the platform

citation?

Seconded - I'm not normally the [Citation Needed] guy but this claim deserves either an explanation or a link to an article that gives one. If it's true it'll have a ready audience willing to amplify it, if it's false it should disappear

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by kayodelycaon »

trewnews wrote: post #145
secondcoming wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

allowlist/denylist

Really? Is this not Doublespeak?

Not quite. A number of applications use allow/deny for access control. I’ve seen allowlist and denylist more than ten years ago.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by pkulak »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #202
pkulak wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run Pi-Hole on my network as well; it's wonderful. I'm terrified that it will stop working soon though, as companies start to use their own DNS servers, which I've heard is happening.

Interesting. I would think though that the move to their own DNS servers could extend to their own ads as well — that is, cutting out the middle man that is Google/etc. I'm all for news sites, for example, hoisting ads if I knew they were getting the money from those ads, knew the ads were actually coming from their site.

Sorry, I didn't mean their _own_ servers, I just meant hard-coding 8.8.8.8 into the DNS settings, for example.

I wonder if you could hijack those requests at your router and send them back to your Pi-Hole? But then they just switch to DNS over TLS...

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by mikl »

falsaberN1 wrote: post #171

The partitioning thing is terrible for people with slow/unstable connections, despite the security gains. Is there a way to disable it? Or should I better think about installing a caching proxy to avoid the redundant traffic?

I think you’re overestimating the impact of this. Most web site content these days are served from the web site owner’s own domain.

It’s only if a.com and b.com have (for example) the exact same image URL (c.com/img123.jpg) embedded, and you visit both sites, that this cache partitioning will make a difference.

In essence, there’s very little legitimate Internet traffic that would be effected by this change, but lots and lots of creepy spyware behaviour will be prevented.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by ogre_codes »

Average_ wrote: post #141
ogre_codes wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just have a decent set of ad blockers and the experience is similar. Unfortunately, it often results in weird experiences or I get sites which don't work at all if you have ad blocking.

Well that's interesting. For me 99.5% of websites work perfectly using ublock origin. The only .5% remaining are websites that actively refuse to serve any kind of adblock users, not because it breaks functionality on their site. I don't think I can recall having visited a single website that would have features break unintentionally because of ublock in the past few years.

I don't think my experience is vastly different from yours. I do get some sites where pop-overs or cookie notifications are blocked but it's not clear and you just can't scroll. I could turn off those blocker settings, but the notifications are annoying enough it's worth it.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by mastazi »

WC3w6pXxgGd wrote: post #99
newscracker wrote: post #91

Use uBlock Origin, Multi Account Containers, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes and CookieAutoDelete with Firefox. Make sure you aggressively clear cache, cookies, etc., periodically (with CookieAutoDelete). You’ll probably load the web servers more and also add more traffic on your network, but it will help protect your privacy since most websites don’t care about that. When websites are user hostile, you have to take pr…

Why not use Brave? It has all of this, with Fingerprint protection turned on by default.

Brave doesn't have the features offered by those extensions, it doesn't have anything equivalent to multi account containers, it doesn't have DNS emulation (unless you install Decentraleyes) and it doesn't auto delete cookies (you still need to install Cookie Autodelete). The built in ad blocker is not as advanced as uBlock Origin and that's why I installed the latter as an extension (I turned off the built in one). Anyway IMHO the biggest limitation currently is the lack of containers, because it needs to be built into the browser, there is no 3rd party extension that can give you that.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by JKCalhoun »

tsujp wrote: post #126
secondcoming wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

allowlist/denylist

You and everyone else who exhibit this are reading into things that don't exist. Language has context, words are part of language and so therefore words have context too.

A black celebrity (forget who) said that he came to the realization growing up that the only positive connotation he could find for black was "in the black" with regards to finances.

So, I kind of see the point.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #168
warent wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

25-33% of requests? Or is this a percentage of bytes? Because I wonder what percentage of bandwidth (in terms of bytes) trackers/banners/ads account for. Need to set up a pi-hole ... just too many other projects....

I set it up recently. It's about as much effort as buying and setting up a new laptop with ubuntu if you get a kit. I'd imagined it as a project beforehand, but in reality it's super easy and trivial (assuming you're comfortable using linux and ssh at a noob level).
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