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Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #152

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I just stop using sites that gimp themselves when I use an adblocker. There's tons of alternatives for most things.

There aren't always alternatives - think shopping for certain items, government forms.

Why would a site that hopes you'll send them money in exchange for product, refuse your traffic if you have an ad blocker enabled? That just costs them money. Same for government forms, why would they refuse your traffic if you're blocking ads?

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#192
post #77

is it just me or more people switching to Firefox these days?

I switched in late 2017 when they released quantum or neutrino or whatever they called it, a huge performance release. As a backend dev and security focused eng I have little reason to test drive changes in all browsers. FF has been smooth and stable for me across desktop OSs. Having no reason to alternate between that and Chrome, I’ve been confused by people saying it’s slow. It’s been, to my memory, a flawless expe…

I've had a similar experience. My only gripe is that the Facebook Container extension / Multi-Account Containers[0] stopped working for some reason, and I haven't been able to get them working again. I love that I was able to sequester all of Google's real estate from all of Amazon from all of my work tabs, and so on.

[0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #83

These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

I added this to my /etc/hosts

https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

What is the advantage of having DNS on a separate device other than that it provides ad blocking for multiple devices?

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#194

These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

We're trying to build an ad network that doesn't track users: https://www.ethicalads.io/ We talked a little bit about how these ads still work, even without tracking you. You might be losing 10-15% of revenue, but if you never had that revenue to start with, you don't miss it: https://www.ethicalads.io/blog/2018/04/ethical-advertising-w... I think the real secret is just to not become dependent on the additive revenu…

Presumably if your adverts don't do tracking, they don't need to slow page loads down the way current advertising does either which should be a big plus.

Fundamentally serving an advert should be a light process adding only a tiny amount of overhead to the site.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#195
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just stop using sites that gimp themselves when I use an adblocker. There's tons of alternatives for most things.

There aren't always alternatives - think shopping for certain items, government forms.

You have adds on your government forms?

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just have a decent set of ad blockers and the experience is similar. Unfortunately, it often results in weird experiences or I get sites which don't work at all if you have ad blocking.

Well that's interesting. For me 99.5% of websites work perfectly using ublock origin. The only .5% remaining are websites that actively refuse to serve any kind of adblock users, not because it breaks functionality on their site. I don't think I can recall having visited a single website that would have features break unintentionally because of ublock in the past few years.

It depends on how many privacy lists you have added, probably.

Normal display ads all being blocked is generally fine 99% of the time, but if you care about not being permanently tracked across the internet then there are a couple more domains you have to add - except some sites make it mandatory that those invasive fingerprinting scripts and port scanners run and report back a session, otherwise you're refused login or banned.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#197

The partitioning thing is terrible for people with slow/unstable connections, despite the security gains. Is there a way to disable it? Or should I better think about installing a caching proxy to avoid the redundant traffic?

I fully agree.

I think turning `privacy.partition.network_state` off in about:config should do allow reverting the change at least.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#198

These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

We're trying to build an ad network that doesn't track users: https://www.ethicalads.io/ We talked a little bit about how these ads still work, even without tracking you. You might be losing 10-15% of revenue, but if you never had that revenue to start with, you don't miss it: https://www.ethicalads.io/blog/2018/04/ethical-advertising-w... I think the real secret is just to not become dependent on the additive revenu…

I totally read it as ethical lads.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#199

These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

Modern ad networks are essentially the “fax machine flyers” of old: someone you don’t know using your resources and your time, denying you use of your own resources temporarily, to send you something you don’t want. Except now it’s like every “normal” fax page includes 15,000 flyers.

I wonder how many people reading this comment are thinking, "what's a fax machine?" :o)

I like the analogy, but I wonder how effective it is on anyone under the age of what, 35?

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

#200

Does this mean I don't need to permanently browse with Incognito now? Using uBlock, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes currently.

Not if you plan on using Google search. They discourage such 'behaviour' by throwing captchas at you after a set amount of time.
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