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Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by jedberg »

mschuetz wrote: post #45
beervirus wrote: post #2

Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.

I've been switching to Firefox for private use a year ago, but overall I find it not good. Weird bugs, usability issues, dev tools not that great, etc. And privacy-wise, the defaults don't seem great either. There was something about containers that are supposed to prevent tracking between different domains, but if you actively have to create containers rather than them being automatically applied on each domain, the…

You need the temporary containers plug-in to manage it for you.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by SubiculumCode »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #22
alangibson wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What problems do you have? I use Firefox exclusively and I'm a heavy Google app user too (laziness...), but I can't remember ever having a significant issue

Google refuses to let Firefox have their voice typing feature.

For those down-voting, I should have added this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456885

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by jniedrauer »

suvelx wrote: post #31

Are there any plans for complete partitioning? I'd like to see a point where browsing on two different websites are treated as a completely different user. Embeds, cookies, cookies in embeds, etc.

I'd like to see something like the firefox container extension automatically open a new container for every unique domain name. It could get tricky for eg. federated logins, so I'm not 100% sure what the implementation would look like. But it'd be nice to have the option.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by NelsonMinar »

cyberpro007 wrote: post #52

Doesn't NoScript do the same job?

Perhaps you are trolling? NoScript is a giant hammer that smashes 90% of the functioning parts of most modern web pages. This new feature in Firefox partitions caching in a way that mostly won't affect how a site works but will block one nefarious tracking technique.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by Tarsul »

minikites wrote: post #57
Teever wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, right? Like if I were to be caught doing this to a random woman it would be appropriately labelled 'stalking' yet when a company does it they potentially have a patentable marketing technique on their hands or something.

It's good when a company does it because they create value in the economy. It's only bad when a person does it because no value is created.

don't know if you're sarcastic. However, just because a company makes money, doesn't mean value is created. Like when you win in poker against someone, you're making money but not creating value.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by ghostDancer »

minikites wrote: post #57
Teever wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, right? Like if I were to be caught doing this to a random woman it would be appropriately labelled 'stalking' yet when a company does it they potentially have a patentable marketing technique on their hands or something.

It's good when a company does it because they create value in the economy. It's only bad when a person does it because no value is created.

You forgot the /s. This is HN here you find people that can take that seriously and agree.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by zwirbl »

minikites wrote: post #57
Teever wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, right? Like if I were to be caught doing this to a random woman it would be appropriately labelled 'stalking' yet when a company does it they potentially have a patentable marketing technique on their hands or something.

It's good when a company does it because they create value in the economy. It's only bad when a person does it because no value is created.

In values we trust. Shareholder value that is

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by abcd_f »

Per-site caching negates the principal selling point of centrally-hosted JS and resources, including fonts. The convenience remains, but all speed-related perks (due to the resources being reused from earlier visits to unrelated sites) are no more... which is actually great, because it reduces the value that unscrupulous free CDN providers can derive from their "properties".

It also means that I can remove fonts.google.com from the uBlock blacklist. Yay.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by Santosh83 »

suvelx wrote: post #31

Are there any plans for complete partitioning? I'd like to see a point where browsing on two different websites are treated as a completely different user. Embeds, cookies, cookies in embeds, etc.

I believe the 'First-party isolation' feature does this, but you need to enable it from about:config, and even then, I'm not sure if it is complete or bug-free.
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