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CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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An alternative distro is being developed here: https://rockylinux.org/

Unfortunate name. To say something is rocky, is like saying it's unstable/unreliable.

Why, are the Rocky Mountains about to collapse?

Also this is a sentimental name, chosen well imho.

> "Thinking back to early CentOS days... My cofounder was Rocky McGaugh. He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you...Rocky Linux"

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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An alternative distro is being developed here: https://rockylinux.org/

Here’s a podcast that explains the background of Rocky and Centos. It speaks to the original aims of Centos and how Rocky continues the mission and attempts to fix some of the org structure problems that lead to Centos being where it is today.

https://changelog.com/podcast/427

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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Well, they are a for profit company.

I'm only trying to say what they really are. it would be unfair to judge them only based on what they are. then again, I see open source slowly but steadily losing ground. and if open source has a tough time. free software has it even worse.

The Free Software community is having a Renaissance right now and making advances on nearly every front.

Turns out not compromising your principals and being zealots works.

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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My previous employer went all in on ditching their RHEL boxes for CentOS. I wonder how that change is treating them now. Given this change by Red Hat/IBM, was it wasted effort? I wonder if they’ll now switch back to RHEL.

And we wonder why Red Hat would do this. I think it's for this right here.

CentOS was TOO GOOD after so long; even C-level execs were happy to sign off on using it.

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunate name. To say something is rocky, is like saying it's unstable/unreliable.

Why, are the Rocky Mountains about to collapse? Also this is a sentimental name, chosen well imho. > "Thinking back to early CentOS days... My cofounder was Rocky McGaugh. He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you...Rocky Linux"

> uncertain and difficult and not likely to last long

> difficult or uncertain

> unable to balance very well

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rocky

The parent to your comment is correct, as are you about the specific reference in this case.

The etymology of the Rocky Mountains is unrelated to either:

> The Rocky Mountains were so called by 1802, translating French Montagnes Rocheuses, first applied to the Canadian Rockies. "The name is not directly self-descriptive but is an approximate translation of the name of the former Native American people here known as the Assiniboin .... The mountains are in fact not noticeably rocky"

https://www.etymonline.com/word/rocky

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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> CentOS is a sponsored project, we are the funding agent and we happen to also be a heavy contributor. It would be interesting if there was a way to determine if any other open source projects have this kind of large dependency on a single company. Track GitHub accounts doing the commits which are linked to orgs perhaps?

Yes, you can look at commits.

The short answer is that the vast majority of open source projects are to a large degree dependent on a single person or company. (And those without corporate funding can have trouble--as did CentOS at one or more points in its history before Red Hat picked up the funding.)

ADDED: Although major successful projects do tend to have a more diverse community because that's what takes most advantage of the open source development model.

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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Unfortunate name. To say something is rocky, is like saying it's unstable/unreliable.

Why, are the Rocky Mountains about to collapse? Also this is a sentimental name, chosen well imho. > "Thinking back to early CentOS days... My cofounder was Rocky McGaugh. He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you...Rocky Linux"

No, it's because rocky shores were very hazardous to shipping, and a ship "on the rocks" was either close to, or in, immediate peril.

The homage seems lovely, but doesn't (unfortunately) change the fact that to the vast majority of english speakers "rocky" means unstable/dangerous... In fact, one of the most common expressions referring to an unstable/bad relationship is "their relationship is on the rocks" or "they are on the rocks".

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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Large corporation undermines a group of people to make a buck, news at 11... Businesses aren't your friends , repeat it with me, no matter how much propoganda they regularly spew out. Sometimes their goals may be temporarily aligned with yours in which case you can leverage their resources but never forget their goals can shift to be misaligned with yours at any point, making them a partial or direct enemy of your go…

Businesses aren’t your friends. Employers aren’t your family. Be wary of either group selling them as such.

Businesses aren’t your friends. Employers aren’t your family.

No, but its a helpful fiction as far as it makes everyone more convivial and agreeable. It forms a kind of shared illusion, not unlike the kayfabe of professional wrestling.

Re: CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest in it

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Why, are the Rocky Mountains about to collapse? Also this is a sentimental name, chosen well imho. > "Thinking back to early CentOS days... My cofounder was Rocky McGaugh. He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you...Rocky Linux"

No, it's because rocky shores were very hazardous to shipping, and a ship "on the rocks" was either close to, or in, immediate peril. The homage seems lovely, but doesn't (unfortunately) change the fact that to the vast majority of english speakers "rocky" means unstable/dangerous... In fact, one of the most common expressions referring to an unstable/bad relationship is "their relationship is on the rocks" or "they…

Well I'm British and whilst I understand the etymology of the phrase I really don't associate Rocky Linux with being an unstable distro, but each to their own.
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