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The Battle of GameStop

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Re: The Battle of GameStop

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No I made this money myself. In any time in basically the last decade, if you leveraged up on the SPY or QQQ, you are now retired. People are too risk averse, they will be stuck in a job forever

No you gambled and got lucky. Good for you that’s great, but please recognize it for what it is. You played the market and won, just like people play the lotto, and some of them win too.

Do you attribute YCombinator's success to lucky gambling?

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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The argument is that we’re working to keep a roof over our heads now because we YOLOed through college. And while that doesn’t describe me, I had a lot of peers who partied through college, skipped classes, hardly worked, majored in women’s studies / art history / literature / etc and still managed to live in the dorms, buy daily lattes, have the latest iPhones, etc.

> partied through college, skipped classes, hardly worked, majored in women’s studies / art history / literature / Some of those things are not like the other. I studied computer science, plenty of people partied and as far as I can tell, people who studied humanities like literature had to work more. It was not easier major in terms of how much you have to work. I liked computer science, so I am always surprised abo…

I agree with this statement. I had two majors: Religion (history/study of, not theology) and Computer Science.

My Religion degree, esp. when we got to things like post-modern criticism and Hegel, were leap-years more difficult than anything we had to study in computer science. So, yeah, I take umbrage to people saying that the humanities are easy.

(The Religion degree was incredibly interesting, too, though ultimately not terribly practical for anything but law, and I wasn't really interested in doing that.)

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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People exist who in the past two days paid $150 for a share that most analysts think is worth about $14 — at a company with negative earnings for six of the last seven quarters, and minimal earnings growth over the past few years. I'm sure there was some bull case for the company, and it might have had a snowball's chance in hell around $14 or even $20/share. But at $60+ ? What on God's good earth is supposed to make…

Counter Point $AMD was at $0.15, AMD was the only company besides Intel that actually had x86-64 patents. Intel would have never let AMD fail because they would be a monopoly and that is worse than leading a duopoly. Notice the bean counter Intel ceo, the yields getting worse over time, the performance not improving besides a 1-2% year over year and Intel getting complacent, repeatedly to screwing over the customer w…

These remarks are presented for the interest of passerbys, not because the comment I reply to has merit and deserves them.

Counterpoint 1: AMD was a chipmaker with skilled engineers on staff and a growth story where they could seize market share with better technology. Gamestop is a retailer with retail clerks on staff and a story where increasing competition from PC and console app stores slowly eats away at their market share. Exact same thing, right?

Counterpoint 2: Saying the price target is wrong is one thing, and may in many circumstances be eminently defensible. Saying the correct price is $50-$150 is another.

Counterpoint 3: This exemplifies the thinking going on here. "I don't understand the stock market and think someone is screwing us over. Let's define our own alternate reality, and gang up on them for revenge! Revolution!" Last time we saw that show was January 6. For a few people, who get out at the right time, this will be a much more successful revolution, but on the whole, it succeeds only with a transient disruption, and harm the individual would-be revolutionaries the most.

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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I’ve made millions on WSB options plays. I can finally quit my job and stop being a cubicle slave. The visceral reaction from the media on this is disgusting. Major hedge funds got caught on the wrong side of this, and have been making a huge stink about it. CNBC to the rescue, demonizing young middle class Reddit investors. This whole thing has opened my eyes to how even my FAANG compensation is peasant money, it’s…

Here's my account, that might be survivorship bias. I also traded tech stocks and cryptos and was able to significantly beat the market on the former and quit (also from Amazon) a few years ago. I invested in NVidia after recognizing GPU shortages due to ML continuing hype. I switched to AMD after recognizing their Zen CPUs are slowly beating Intel. I switched to TSMC after realizing their accomplishments are signifi…

The market's complete lack of pricing-in the amazing reviews Zen received was enlightening.

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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At least in this case, GameStop has filed to raise up to $100,000,000 through an ATM offering (selling shares to the public) [0]. So yes, the recent activity does help the company, in so far as GME is a company that can be helped by getting its hands on more cash. [0] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1326380/000119312520...

Did that go through? Releasing new overpriced shares while the price is being obviously raising unrelated to the company performance sounds super dodgy.

Worked fine for Tesla and Apple.

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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post #214

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The argument is that we’re working to keep a roof over our heads now because we YOLOed through college. And while that doesn’t describe me, I had a lot of peers who partied through college, skipped classes, hardly worked, majored in women’s studies / art history / literature / etc and still managed to live in the dorms, buy daily lattes, have the latest iPhones, etc.

> I had a lot of peers who partied through college, skipped classes, hardly worked, majored in women’s studies / art history / literature / etc and still managed to live in the dorms, buy daily lattes, have the latest iPhones, etc. That's what you get when your system is designed to give money easily to young people who don't understand the consequences of major financial debt. Blaming this on the individuals is leav…

I agree. I typed this hurriedly and didn’t mean to imply that it was individuals faults in particular. It’s certainly society’s fault at large as you observe. Perhaps a bygone generation would have been more fiscally conservative. It’s absolutely predatory with respect to universities jacking up tuition costs with nothing to show for it with respect to educational outcomes.

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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They're not winning. They're just minting a different set of losers and pushing the drawing out by a couple weeks. And Reddit being Reddit you can never really be sure whether organic interest is pumping the stock or if they are being manipulated by an astroturfing campaign. If day trading weren't a conflict of interest for me I'd be looking into doing something like that (and consequently not blabbing about it on HN…

I think I'm convinced of manipulation. The memeing and the gameifying investment, calling each other retards (because you, user, you don't know _anything_) and the long obscure unfalsifiable ramblings about predictions or valuable investments hitting the top of the page, it all just seems a little fishy to me.

Occam's razor: posts you don't understand are not part of a dark conspiracy involving 2 million people with secret codes and manipulation; you just don't know as much as them.

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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The only person really winning here is Ken Griffin.

Damn, here I was thinking /u/DeepFuckingValue was winning by turning 53k into 13M, more than any of the jealous fucks here will make in their lifetime working their miserable engineering jobs and afraid to take any risks in life https://www.reddit.com/user/DeepFuckingValue

That guy bought and held GME since 2019 at ~$5 who yolo'd $53k with call options. Just one of many who took a diamond-handed bet on a lowly priced stock to be the 0.0001% of those who became multi-millionaires as soon as the short were squeezed up to $155 a share. Well played to that guy and others who didn't sell and got in very early.

As soon as it's reported on the news, for that stock at least it is probably too late to get in.

> more than any of the jealous fucks here will make in their lifetime working their miserable engineering jobs and afraid to take any risks in life

I'm afraid you're spot on. But I'm sure that some may say it is less risky to work at those FAANMG companies than it is to go all in your life-savings into meme stocks. (TSLA, GME, etc.)

On the other hand, building startups is also very risky, via the VC route or bootstrapped route. Depending IF you attract VCs to invest in it, its either you get acquired for >10x or IPO (might become a multi-m/billionaire), or you return their money or go completely bust.

Some play it safe whilst they watch others take risks.

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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This is why I absolutely hate Wall Street bets and push back every time it’s brought up. The people usually winning there are people who work in finance and are pushing their stocks onto the unsuspecting folks who visit just for the memes. There is something suspicious about a sub where high ranking users often post there 100k robinhood accounts, and the SEC investing them every few months is proof I’m not the only o…

well past 100k now, u/WSBgod, u/DeepFuckingValue, and others are showing plays worth millions of $ some of these accounts "Rose up from nothing" by investing an entire portfolio of 50+ thousand dollars into extremely risky options. Either this is suspect or I'm out of touch with the average joe's risk tolerance.

It’s worth noting that u/WSBGod was a scam ran by a corrupt mod to sell investment courses, but so far DFV is legit (given the size of his initial play and the fact he’s gotten his money out I think he’s legit, anyway).

Re: The Battle of GameStop

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This is why I absolutely hate Wall Street bets and push back every time it’s brought up. The people usually winning there are people who work in finance and are pushing their stocks onto the unsuspecting folks who visit just for the memes. There is something suspicious about a sub where high ranking users often post there 100k robinhood accounts, and the SEC investing them every few months is proof I’m not the only o…

well past 100k now, u/WSBgod, u/DeepFuckingValue, and others are showing plays worth millions of $ some of these accounts "Rose up from nothing" by investing an entire portfolio of 50+ thousand dollars into extremely risky options. Either this is suspect or I'm out of touch with the average joe's risk tolerance.

you’re out of touch with the entire wsb scene. wsbgod/jarteks alt (the mod that used the sub to farm idiots into a scam/trading group) was a ruse used to hype the sub.
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