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Are gay men in Norway a very vulnerable community? My impression was no, but I’m willing to have that countered
They have more disposable income than the median.
There are plenty of soft barriers to progress for gay men.
> Grindr is now relying on a new consent system and alleged "legitimate interest" to use data without user consent. This is in conflict with the decision of the Norwegian DPA, as it explicitly held that "any extensive disclosure ... for marketing purposes should be based on the data subject’s consent". This "legitimate interest" shenanigans is coming up more and more often, where you have a modal with lots of options…
It’s as if they used decades of HCI research precisely to make the user experience as horrible as possible. No wait, I’m sure they did exactly that.
Here[1] is the press release from the Norwegian Consumer Council, which initiated this along with noyb based on their earlier findings[2]. [1]: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/news-in-english/historic-victo... [2]: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/side/new-study-the-advertising...
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This is a big one for Norway as food security has been a big strategic focus for Norway ever since the British naval blockade against Denmark-Norway during the Napoleonic wars, reaffirmed by the hardships during the Nazi occupation. It's still largely politically untenable in Norway to oppose agriculture subsidies.
There is something a bit sad about having present day policy be determined by the Napoleonic wars.
Today the main reminder is that Norwegian school children still tend to learn the epic poem "Terje Vigen" by Ibsen, about a man who braves the blockade to feed his family and is captured - coupled with food security being a talking point in other subjects. It's not pushed very hard, and many probably at this point don't even make the connection.
The main modern justification is WW2, where the subject of food security gets reinforced with stories of bread made with bark etc., and post-war rationing.
Couple that with the constant fear of the Soviet Union (to the point that when growing up, we had regular air raid siren tests - today they're so rare the newspapers write articles to explain what they are) only reducing to unease about Russia, and food security is still a political topic.
Great news! They have been preying on a very vulnerable community.
'Preying' is a bit much. Nobody is forced to use grindr and the whole point of the app is to meet same-sex people geographically close to you. This whole case seems to revolve around whether the 'Legitimate Interest' legal basis is valid or not. It was only a matter of time before it was legally challenged.
> Grindr is now relying on a new consent system and alleged "legitimate interest" to use data without user consent. This is in conflict with the decision of the Norwegian DPA, as it explicitly held that "any extensive disclosure ... for marketing purposes should be based on the data subject’s consent". This "legitimate interest" shenanigans is coming up more and more often, where you have a modal with lots of options…
It reminds me of "reasonable" wording in English law.
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They have more disposable income than the median.
Could you cite that? If you're comparing median to median, I find that very unlikely. There are plenty of soft barriers to progress for gay men.
I'm surprised about: >Consent must also be freely given. The DPA highlighted that users should have a real choice not to consent without any negative consequences. Grindr made use of the app conditional on consenting to data sharing or to paying a subscription fee. I thought that this was allowed. Kind of puts companies depending on advertising in really bad position. One would expect that having choice of paying or…
> I thought that this was allowed. No, that's one of the big wins of GDPR. You cannot just force the users to sign away their rights.
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The impact comes from Grindr being responsible for the collected data, obviously just handing that data to a third party to do whatever is not responsible handling of it. Grindr actually distributed data from persons that had opted-out, reasoning that setting a flag should stop the down-stream processors from touching the data. That is literally the gossip girl using the the "don't tell anyone this" principle of priv…
The thing is, third-party SDKs often do data collection on their own. Or, even if they don't, they could do so, and you don't really know if they do or not.
You always had "respect the privacy of users" as a reason not to use them before, but we all know how well that worked.