This fine is going to be a pain in the backside for Grindr.
Grindr to be fined almost €10M over GDPR complaint
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Re: Grindr to be fined almost €10M over GDPR complaint
#32Great news! They have been preying on a very vulnerable community.
Are gay men in Norway a very vulnerable community? My impression was no, but I’m willing to have that countered
I cannot speak for Norway specifically, but there is, as far as I know, not a single openly gay player in the (male!) Bundesliga. Apparently, even high-status, well-earning men in progressiv societies can be vulnerable to disclosure of their sexual preferences.
Re: Grindr to be fined almost €10M over GDPR complaint
#33Great news! They have been preying on a very vulnerable community.
Why do you say that? The app was founded in LA where I wouldn't describe the gay scene as vulnerable. Is the situation in Normay different?
Being gay can still get you arrested or killed in some countries of the world. Even if not, discrimination of gay people surely is a thing all over the world.
Besides that, dating apps of any kind should be held to very high data protection standards for the sometimes very delicate matters.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, I meant benefit of EEA over EU membership.
They have some "special rights" on natural resources. i.e oil, fishery. I think the EU will close that loophole soon.
Is there any reason for the EU to close that loophole now ?
It seems to be a pretty good partnership so far, and I did not read anything about a will from either side to change anything about it yet, but I might be misinformed
Re: Grindr to be fined almost €10M over GDPR complaint
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The impact comes from Grindr being responsible for the collected data, obviously just handing that data to a third party to do whatever is not responsible handling of it. Grindr actually distributed data from persons that had opted-out, reasoning that setting a flag should stop the down-stream processors from touching the data. That is literally the gossip girl using the the "don't tell anyone this" principle of priv…
The thing is, third-party SDKs often do data collection on their own. Or, even if they don't, they could do so, and you don't really know if they do or not.
Yes Facebook's SDK is unfortunately very common for example.
But Grindr and applications developers in general are responsible for the data. They have to know and have a data policy with their third parties.
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#36Great news! They have been preying on a very vulnerable community.
Are gay men in Norway a very vulnerable community? My impression was no, but I’m willing to have that countered
Individuals, even in Norway, can still be significantly affected if their sexual orientation or preference were discovered by others.
Anything from getting shunned by family members or religious community, losing out on job offers, to foreigners visiting Norway from a country where their sexual orientation is punishable by law.
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#37Didn't know Norway has GDPR as they are not in the EU but apparently they have. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=34dfb199-c9ab...
EEA has all the laws and requirements of the EU but without representiation. So they have to follow the laws and rules but don't have a voice in the rules. I have no idea what the benefit of the EEA is for it's members other than political that they can say they're not in the EU but there must be some, maybe they don't need to pay in like EU members do?
> I have no idea what the benefit of the EEA is for it's members
We have the option to reject certain EU-rules, and can negotiate special exemptions into our agreement. Norway has some exemptions in fishing rights that are central to our agreement. Under the previous government we also rejected the EU Postal Directive, though the current government has since accepted it.
Re: Grindr to be fined almost €10M over GDPR complaint
#38NYOB seems to be a great company. I have heard of their lawsuits against Apple, Facebook and now a large fine against Grindr. If anyone wants to help them - https://noyb.eu/en/support-us . (no affiliation)
Decided to put my money where my mouth is and signed up to donate to them. Thank you for the link.
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#40This fine is going to be a pain in the backside for Grindr.
There's no need to be making stupid jokes here at the expense of gay men.