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Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by initplus »

input_sh wrote: post #18
arrayjumper wrote: post #4

Wow, was checking out the transactions at https://opencollective.com/open-web-docs/transactions?offset... and I see that Google and Microsoft have collectively contributed $500k. Happy to see that there is corporate sponsorship for this. Gives me some hope that this will allow MDN to outlast any eventuality that might befall Mozilla.

And a small Coil, who you've probably never heard of before, donated 40% of Google's/Microsoft's amount ($100k). That's pennies to Google/Microsoft. For Coil.com on the other hand... For the unaware, Coil is a subscription service that you pay a certain amount to, and that amount gets spread through websites you visit that have a WebMonetization tag in the element: Pretty cool initiative. My personal website earned a…

Honestly, committing 100k to this is probably a more effective marketing spend than many...

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by teruakohatu »

I don't understand why Mozilla cannot see that MDN should be part of their core mission. I can understand spinning off Thunderbird and Sunbird, but this really seems a big step in the wrong direction.

Today their Mission webpage[1] states :

"Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all."

According to the Wayback Machine, 8 years ago that page[2] said:

"Our mission is to promote openness, innovation and opportunity on the Internet."

Surely documenting open standards and educating developers is part of both the current mission just as much as the almost decade old mission?

Along with the "Internet Society" (.org) I can't think any of any other organizations that are, in my opinion, so misguided as they are critically important to the future of the free internet.

[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20120331122341/https://www.mozil...

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

input_sh wrote: post #18
arrayjumper wrote: post #4

Wow, was checking out the transactions at https://opencollective.com/open-web-docs/transactions?offset... and I see that Google and Microsoft have collectively contributed $500k. Happy to see that there is corporate sponsorship for this. Gives me some hope that this will allow MDN to outlast any eventuality that might befall Mozilla.

And a small Coil, who you've probably never heard of before, donated 40% of Google's/Microsoft's amount ($100k). That's pennies to Google/Microsoft. For Coil.com on the other hand... For the unaware, Coil is a subscription service that you pay a certain amount to, and that amount gets spread through websites you visit that have a WebMonetization tag in the element: Pretty cool initiative. My personal website earned a…

so did they actually donate or did they pay the monetization amount that their algorithm determined MDN should have?

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by efferifick »

initplus wrote: post #21
input_sh wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a small Coil, who you've probably never heard of before, donated 40% of Google's/Microsoft's amount ($100k). That's pennies to Google/Microsoft. For Coil.com on the other hand... For the unaware, Coil is a subscription service that you pay a certain amount to, and that amount gets spread through websites you visit that have a WebMonetization tag in the element: Pretty cool initiative. My personal website earned a…

Honestly, committing 100k to this is probably a more effective marketing spend than many...

Well... this is how I just found out about them. I find coil very interesting! Strongly thinking about becoming a member, but I would like to find out if the websites I follow use the web monetization tag first.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by Eugeleo »

user3939382 wrote: post #11

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config. I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions. Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Fire…

Hey, I respect your preference and mean the following question in good faith: Why do you care for this?

I can understand not wanting Facebook to watch your every step (specifically because they build your shadow profile and that can be uncomfortable), but not wanting to share anonymised data with developers, and with such a passion? I'd love someone to explain this to me.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by musicale »

teruakohatu wrote: post #22

I don't understand why Mozilla cannot see that MDN should be part of their core mission. I can understand spinning off Thunderbird and Sunbird, but this really seems a big step in the wrong direction. Today their Mission webpage[1] states : "Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all." According to the Wayback Machine, 8 years ago that page[2] said: "Our mission is t…

MDN is awesome; it's the Mozilla "product" that I use most often (though I do use Firefox as a secondary browser and Firefox focus as a junk content blocker) and I definitely include it in the "best of Mozilla" category.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by dang »

shmageggy wrote: post #3

Had to click through a few links to get real info. From https://opencollective.com/open-web-docs/updates/introducing... > Questions and answers > Q: Is this a new docs platform? > A: No, we are working closely together with existing platforms, and our current priority is contributions to MDN Web Docs. > Q: Is this a competitor/replacement for MDN Web Docs? > A: No. Open Web Docs writers contribute to important develo…

This comment was originally a reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25913083, but because the article it links to is clearly the more informative one, we merged that thread into this submission. Thanks for pointing that out!

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by dang »

pm90 wrote: post #5

Hmm, can someone TLDR what this is supposed to be? I did read the article but I didn't understand what this is trying to do. It just mentions something about the "collective health of something".

This comment was originally posted to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25913083, where the article was more of a corporate press release. We merged that thread hither.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by shaan7 »

input_sh wrote: post #18
arrayjumper wrote: post #4

Wow, was checking out the transactions at https://opencollective.com/open-web-docs/transactions?offset... and I see that Google and Microsoft have collectively contributed $500k. Happy to see that there is corporate sponsorship for this. Gives me some hope that this will allow MDN to outlast any eventuality that might befall Mozilla.

And a small Coil, who you've probably never heard of before, donated 40% of Google's/Microsoft's amount ($100k). That's pennies to Google/Microsoft. For Coil.com on the other hand... For the unaware, Coil is a subscription service that you pay a certain amount to, and that amount gets spread through websites you visit that have a WebMonetization tag in the element: Pretty cool initiative. My personal website earned a…

Finally someone seems to have done this right. Subscribed now, lets see how it goes!

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Post by franciscop »

It retracts from the credibility of a documentation platform that the blog post announcing it makes one of the most basic mistakes of writing text online; line length should be kept to 60-80 characters to make it readable. It can be stretched a bit up to 100 chars depending on font-size, line-height, etc, but this blog post features a whooping 163!
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