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Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#11

Post by user3939382 »

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config.

I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions.

Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Firefox which I do not want, anonymized or otherwise. Until that is accomplished, which would be very easy for Mozilla, I don't care one lick about their new initiatives.

Until this is fixed they are fraudulently peddling misleading privacy claims to users.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#12

Post by cornedor »

user3939382 wrote: post #11

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config. I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions. Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Fire…

Is there currently a "modern" browser that does that?

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#14

Post by ksec »

hayksaakian wrote: post #8
pm90 wrote: post #5

Hmm, can someone TLDR what this is supposed to be? I did read the article but I didn't understand what this is trying to do. It just mentions something about the "collective health of something".

it's a separate legal entity, independent of Mozilla intended to document the web. It seems like they're going to 'own' MDN from a funding perspective among other future proejcts my short summary is: Mozilla is spinning-off MDN into a separate entity that separate entity may attracting funding and donations that wouldn't normally contribute to Mozilla for various reasons in the same amounts

>Mozilla is spinning-off MDN into a separate entity

They should have just put this as headline instead. Sigh.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#15

Post by Jonnax »

user3939382 wrote: post #11

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config. I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions. Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Fire…

Compile Firefox yourself and remove that functionality?

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#16

Post by 22c »

cornedor wrote: post #12
user3939382 wrote: post #11

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config. I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions. Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Fire…

Is there currently a "modern" browser that does that?

I believe Watefox and Tor Browser both have this functionality removed from the Firefox codebase.

I am not sure about Pale Moon or Basilisk, but I suspect they may also have less telemetry.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#17

Post by laurent92 »

user3939382 wrote: post #11

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config. I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions. Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Fire…

What most annoys me about Mozilla is literally the quantity of advertising.

- They open front pages to advertise about privacy and how much they respect it,

- And when you’ve closed all of that, they do advertising (last one was for MLK) in new tabs,

- And they’ll even pursue you by email to tell you how good they are, even though I specifically untick subscribe boxes everywhere I can.

It is literally Big Brother going through every channel to tell you how much Big Brother cares about you !

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#18

Post by input_sh »

arrayjumper wrote: post #4

Wow, was checking out the transactions at https://opencollective.com/open-web-docs/transactions?offset... and I see that Google and Microsoft have collectively contributed $500k. Happy to see that there is corporate sponsorship for this. Gives me some hope that this will allow MDN to outlast any eventuality that might befall Mozilla.

And a small Coil, who you've probably never heard of before, donated 40% of Google's/Microsoft's amount ($100k).

That's pennies to Google/Microsoft. For Coil.com on the other hand...

For the unaware, Coil is a subscription service that you pay a certain amount to, and that amount gets spread through websites you visit that have a WebMonetization tag in the element:
Pretty cool initiative. My personal website earned a total of $1 from it so far.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#19

Post by hayksaakian »

ksec wrote: post #14
hayksaakian wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's a separate legal entity, independent of Mozilla intended to document the web. It seems like they're going to 'own' MDN from a funding perspective among other future proejcts my short summary is: Mozilla is spinning-off MDN into a separate entity that separate entity may attracting funding and donations that wouldn't normally contribute to Mozilla for various reasons in the same amounts

>Mozilla is spinning-off MDN into a separate entity They should have just put this as headline instead. Sigh.

it's ambiguous, because technically Mozilla could retain ownership of MDN but delegate maintenance to this new entity.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

#20

Post by httpsterio »

user3939382 wrote: post #11

Firefox pings Mozilla's servers unnecessarily when it launches regardless of the strictest telemetry or privacy settings, including those buried in about:config. I want Firefox to launch to a blank tab and emit 0 connections until I explicitly initiate a connection event through the UI, whereupon I want the connections to be directly associated with my UI interactions. Without that, Mozilla can track my usage of Fire…

This comment isn't really relevant to this topic though, I don't think it's a good idea to bring every single Mozilla related gripe you have into a thread that is only semi-relevant.
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