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Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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You wrote about deplatforming-- heads up that DigitalOcean does deplatform people. I have direct firsthand knowledge of DigitalOcean deplatforming a security disclosure professional reporting a root breach bug. For your secure backups, I can suggest Tarsnap by Colin Percival, who's a security expert and a frequent contributor on Hacker News. I don't get anything for recommending Tarsnap; I'm just a customer. https://…

As tarsnap is run by a single person, it seems hard to suggest it to serious businesses due to the inherent risks there as well as the extremely high storage costs and difficult cleanup procedures compared to competing tools. I tend to prefer solutions like restic + B2 for their price and support, where you at least have a larger company behind the storage backend, you could even directly use it with S3 and it'd stil…

Tarsnap seems to have become a multi-man operation.

https://github.com/Tarsnap/tarsnap/commits/master

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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You wrote about deplatforming-- heads up that DigitalOcean does deplatform people. I have direct firsthand knowledge of DigitalOcean deplatforming a security disclosure professional reporting a root breach bug. For your secure backups, I can suggest Tarsnap by Colin Percival, who's a security expert and a frequent contributor on Hacker News. I don't get anything for recommending Tarsnap; I'm just a customer. https://…

what's the advantage of tarsnap over say, doing an encrypted backup with borg to my gdrive folder? I've never heard of Google random deleting encrypted blobs from people's storage and it's way cheaper

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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I had a terrible, terrifying experience with DO where they hard locked my account for days (and it would have been weeks if I hadn't made a huge stink) because of a misunderstanding. They ban/lock first, ask questions later, and that's not cool and I can't have my (and my customer's) important infrastructure treated that way. I now use Linode for most of my stuff, and once they have cloud firewalls available in Dalla…

> They ban/lock first, ask questions later Given the sheer volume of dodgy packets that originate from DO network space, I find this surprising.

This is the most offensive part to me, I can't even sign up or use DO without having my privacy invaded and sold (they load multiple fingerprinters from different third party vendors that also then share this data) yet they still don't have a handle on abuse.

I get so much rubbish from DO space, nonstop port scanning at absurd volumes (sometimes totaling 6 digit+ pps), from customers that haven't been removed in years. massscan/zmap from people with a fake opt out page (that I shouldn't need to be opting out of), etc.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a terrible, terrifying experience with DO where they hard locked my account for days (and it would have been weeks if I hadn't made a huge stink) because of a misunderstanding. They ban/lock first, ask questions later, and that's not cool and I can't have my (and my customer's) important infrastructure treated that way. I now use Linode for most of my stuff, and once they have cloud firewalls available in Dalla…

> They ban/lock first, ask questions later Given the sheer volume of dodgy packets that originate from DO network space, I find this surprising.

I guess I’m not terribly surprised. It fits a narrative, not of being overly protective, but of run-of-the-mill incompetence.

Someone once used a DigitalOcean droplet to run an aggressive layer 7 denial of service attack against a service I host. I notified DO via their web form, didn’t get a reply for three days, then got told to email to their abuse@ email address instead.

Dutifully, I mailed abuse@ and included the relevant server logs, gzipped, as an attachment. I got a reply that they won’t open any attachments, please copy and paste the logs directly into the email.

As an outsider, it seems to me as if they have few people with the appropriate technical background staffing their abuse department, so legitimate reports are left uninvestigated due to dumb technicalities like not being willing/able to open attachments, and bogus reports are accepted without thought or understanding as to the appropriate course of action.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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I must say, I concur with this person’s assessment of the Goog-exit feeling. I ditched GMail for Fastmail and my own domain last week. I had been putting this off for years because it seemed like such a massive pain in the ass and I was afraid that I would just end up with two email services. In the end, it took me one evening to update every service that I cared about to use my new address. The rest (mostly e-commer…

Been thinking seriously about this.

Do you just inform your contacts with an auto responder?

How long do you intend to keep the gmail account?

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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If that's what you are doing why not just go to Wasabi? It is cheaper, storage is the only thing that they do and downloads is free until the GB transferred is under GB stored per month.

I've never heard of them -- how long have they been around?

2017

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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You wrote about deplatforming-- heads up that DigitalOcean does deplatform people. I have direct firsthand knowledge of DigitalOcean deplatforming a security disclosure professional reporting a root breach bug. For your secure backups, I can suggest Tarsnap by Colin Percival, who's a security expert and a frequent contributor on Hacker News. I don't get anything for recommending Tarsnap; I'm just a customer. https://…

I used to use Tarsnap and am still stuck with it in several projects. I wish I weren't. Restoring backups takes ages. If you need to restore a production server in an emergency, and the whole server remains down for an hour because that's how long Tarsnap takes to restore some tens of Gigabytes, then you will very quickly look for alternatives. I raised this issue with Colin, Tarsnap's creator, multiple times. And the answer has always been "maybe some day". I now simply encrypt backups myself and store them in an S3 or Linode bucket. Much faster. For personal backups, I love restic syncing to Backblaze, where I back up 1.4 TB or so for $5 per month.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As tarsnap is run by a single person, it seems hard to suggest it to serious businesses due to the inherent risks there as well as the extremely high storage costs and difficult cleanup procedures compared to competing tools. I tend to prefer solutions like restic + B2 for their price and support, where you at least have a larger company behind the storage backend, you could even directly use it with S3 and it'd stil…

Tarsnap seems to have become a multi-man operation. https://github.com/Tarsnap/tarsnap/commits/master

The other committer is his brother.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Oh my word, that article on tarsnap is a frightful bore. I was a tarsnap customer and I thought it was great. If Colin is happy running it more like a utility than a rapacious VC-backed hyper-growth racket, I'm not sure why that is bad. The only reason I stopped being a customer was because another rapacious racket of a business, Comcast, introduced miniscule but enforced data caps in my area, so online backups aren'…

I wish things turn around and smaller shops make a comeback. Big is not always better, in fact the service is almost always an afterthought.

"But that won't scale!"
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