Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces • Hacker News Board

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by Saris » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 1:46 AM UTC

jph wrote: post #13

You wrote about deplatforming-- heads up that DigitalOcean does deplatform people. I have direct firsthand knowledge of DigitalOcean deplatforming a security disclosure professional reporting a root breach bug. For your secure backups, I can suggest Tarsnap by Colin Percival, who's a security expert and a frequent contributor on Hacker News. I don't get anything for recommending Tarsnap; I'm just a customer. https://…

Am I reading that right, that 1TB of storage used would be $256 per month + bandwidth costs?

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by wly_cdgr » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 1:51 AM UTC

All this kind of stuff just feels like cosplay unless you are gonna build out your own tier 1 (that also doesn't need other tier 1s)

Which isn't to say you can't learn a lot of useful practical stuff from it, just like you can from cosplay

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by autoditype » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 1:51 AM UTC

Saris wrote: post #81

jph wrote: post #13

You wrote about deplatforming-- heads up that DigitalOcean does deplatform people. I have direct firsthand knowledge of DigitalOcean deplatforming a security disclosure professional reporting a root breach bug. For your secure backups, I can suggest Tarsnap by Colin Percival, who's a security expert and a frequent contributor on Hacker News. I don't get anything for recommending Tarsnap; I'm just a customer. https://…

Am I reading that right, that 1TB of storage used would be $256 per month + bandwidth costs?

I just did the same calculation and I that looks right

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by TheSmiddy » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 1:51 AM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #50

jph wrote: post #13

You wrote about deplatforming-- heads up that DigitalOcean does deplatform people. I have direct firsthand knowledge of DigitalOcean deplatforming a security disclosure professional reporting a root breach bug. For your secure backups, I can suggest Tarsnap by Colin Percival, who's a security expert and a frequent contributor on Hacker News. I don't get anything for recommending Tarsnap; I'm just a customer. https://…

My issue with tarsnap vs Dropbox is entirely workflow. Right now I can treat my Dropbox effectively as an external drive that happens to live on my file system by making everything selectively synced. If I want something backed up, I just drag it into that folder. But once it’s backed up I can turn on selective sync and free up my disk space. Backup of personal data is often a 1-way endeavor — here’s a dump of photos…

If you're transfering data to a backup service and then deleting it locally that's not backup, that's just cloud storage.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by curben » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 1:53 AM UTC

paxys wrote: post #39

There is a lot of open source file sync software out there (ownCloud, NextCloud, Seafile, Syncthing, ...) that would be much better suited for a self-hosted Dropbox replacement than a single bash script. You are many orders of magnitude more likely to lose your data due to a code bug or unstable network than deplatforming. I looked into setting up something of the sort for myself a little while ago, but unfortunately…

Hetzner managed nextcloud costs $12/month (https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share?country=us).

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by jmartrican » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:20 AM UTC

Once I "git reset --hard" the wrong repo and lost a lot of code. Had to use Dropbox's rollback feature to get it all back. Was not the first time Dropbox saved my butt. For me, a comparable alternative would need to have the same rollback features.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:22 AM UTC

0x426577617265 wrote: post #62

I have a 50TB+ NAS in my garage rack. Which I'm not utilizing completely. I wonder if there is a market for renting out some of my storage for someone else's encrypted backups. Something like a website, where I can list my price/gb & connection speed -- or maybe people could swap. Maybe I want to store 5TB off site and I'm willing to let someone else store their 5TB on my server. The website would act as the middlema…

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Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:41 AM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #87

0x426577617265 wrote: post #62

I have a 50TB+ NAS in my garage rack. Which I'm not utilizing completely. I wonder if there is a market for renting out some of my storage for someone else's encrypted backups. Something like a website, where I can list my price/gb & connection speed -- or maybe people could swap. Maybe I want to store 5TB off site and I'm willing to let someone else store their 5TB on my server. The website would act as the middlema…

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Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:43 AM UTC

paxys wrote: post #68

0x426577617265 wrote: post #62

I have a 50TB+ NAS in my garage rack. Which I'm not utilizing completely. I wonder if there is a market for renting out some of my storage for someone else's encrypted backups. Something like a website, where I can list my price/gb & connection speed -- or maybe people could swap. Maybe I want to store 5TB off site and I'm willing to let someone else store their 5TB on my server. The website would act as the middlema…

The amount of liability you'd be taking on would make it absolutely not worth it for 2 customers and a few dollars a month in income. On the opposite end, I'd trust Google or Dropbox with my encrypted backup much more than a rack in someone's garage on a home internet connection.

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Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Post by JeffDClark » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:53 AM UTC

I tried, and tried to use Spaces for image hosting related to a site that I am building but it never worked for me. DigitalOcean support was responsive but useless. I got the same basic response over and over again for days on end. I did finally get a response acking my problem and that it would be assigned to an Engineer. The ticket was then closed the next day with no further comment. I re-opened it and asked about the status of the engineer looking at the issue and received back the same response I had already heard nearly a dozen times. I then re-closed the ticket, deleted my Space, and went back to AWS. :(

I had heard good things about DigitalOcean, but I would not use them or recommend them to anyone after that experience. The one primary issue I had was a showstopper but there was a lot of other bugginess.