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#32How do they check if you have cookies enabled without setting one? Aren't they breaking the law in the process?
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#33websites had that coming for a long time.
It's a common industry pattern to overdo things and then get regulated.
take e.g german gas stations, they went from adjusting their prices occasionally (e.g. when the oil price changed) to price changes several times per day in order to gouge the most out of the customers. Now, they will get regulated and only be allowed to change their price once per day... they basically asked for it.
Same for international roaming fees in Europe, from insane to regulated..
Cookies were used to tracks people's shopping carts and that was fine, same for a site to recognize you. Nowadays they are used to identify and track you in global ad networks etc.. again, asking for it..
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#34Unfortunately this is another case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and incidentally not really solving the problem. Firstly there are various kinds of cookies. There are ones that are stored on your hard-disk, and others which exist only in memory (for the life of the browser instance.) There are ones used for marketing and tracking purposes, and others (notably session cookies) that allow the server to…
what other option is there? To mandate browser source code that implements cookies in a lawful way?
And where is the broad coalition of "don't be evil" browser vendors and websites that proudly claims "we don't track you" and that would have made such laws unnecessary?
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#35In their privacy policy they list the cookie that 'Is essential for their site to function' "Essential site cookie|ASP.NET_SessionId|This cookie is essential for the online notification form to operate and is set upon your arrival to the ICO site. This cookie is deleted when you close your browser." They also say that they've left it there because: "as we’re unable to remove it from one part of the site without affec…
Does ASP.Net depend on it for some reason? I used to do some work in Java Server Pages, and in JSF we were stuck with something called viewstate, that were kept either as a blob in the page or as reference in the page to a blob stored on the server. Technically not a cookie, but for all intents and purposes the same as a cookie that gets deleted when the browser is closed.
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#36Argh! 99% of people have no clue what a "cookie" is used for and just hear that it is "evil" and such. At the same time, these same people have no problem exhibiting themselves of Facebook or tracking their positions on Foursquare. @gov: Just make something like this ( http://www.networkadvertising.org/ > "Conumer opt-out") legally binding for tracking networks (not for individual web sites!) and the whole "Cookie" p…
Facebook tracking my every move is the reason why I don't have a Facebook account.
Ditto: I don't use GMail because I don't want Google to have a copy of all my mail.
Call me paranoid if you must, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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#37Argh! 99% of people have no clue what a "cookie" is used for and just hear that it is "evil" and such. At the same time, these same people have no problem exhibiting themselves of Facebook or tracking their positions on Foursquare. @gov: Just make something like this ( http://www.networkadvertising.org/ > "Conumer opt-out") legally binding for tracking networks (not for individual web sites!) and the whole "Cookie" p…
Along with the NAI check out what the newly formed Digital Advertising Alliance (http://www.aboutads.info/) is doing. Peter Kosmala, formerly from the NAI, was just appointed its head -- I would expect to hear more from this group soon.
Edit: The problem with both of these programs are that they are self-regulatory, which means only the "good guys" are going to follow the guidelines.
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#38Okay, so I don't really use cookies ever, the only one I use is for the PHP Session Identifier. Is this going to be allowed? D:
I'm guessing that it will be because ICO is allowed..
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#39In their privacy policy they list the cookie that 'Is essential for their site to function' "Essential site cookie|ASP.NET_SessionId|This cookie is essential for the online notification form to operate and is set upon your arrival to the ICO site. This cookie is deleted when you close your browser." They also say that they've left it there because: "as we’re unable to remove it from one part of the site without affec…
Does ASP.Net depend on it for some reason? I used to do some work in Java Server Pages, and in JSF we were stuck with something called viewstate, that were kept either as a blob in the page or as reference in the page to a blob stored on the server. Technically not a cookie, but for all intents and purposes the same as a cookie that gets deleted when the browser is closed.
Blocking the cookie lets me view a few pages of the site perfectly fine. I guess the session is required in one small part of the site and it wasn't easy for the developers to make the site only set the cookie in that place.
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#40"unless the cookie is strictly necessary to provide a service requested by the user" Isn't this open to some interpretation? Seems like a pretty wide loop hole. Seems that this will allow a site to set/read it's own cookies no problem. Third-party ad-networks and trackers though, yeah, they would not fall within this definition I think. And isn't that a good thing?
I don't think it's a good thing. Many websites rely on advertising to allow them to even exist