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Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani

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Post by lettergram »

antiterra wrote: post #436
lettergram wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been audits showing inconsistencies in the dominion systems in Michigan. https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-cou... In addition they have videos of dominion employees supposedly explaining how to flip votes. https://thespectator.info/2021/01/04/new-video-shows-dominio... If you watched the state senate hearings you can see these. Witnesses share their findings. As far as I’m aware Giul…

Antrim county was audited and no fraud was found. I don’t consider their expert to be particularly credible and their conclusions (with leaps of faith as to assumed motive) are not even borne out by the facts as they reported. An overly sensitive page size detection could produce the same discrepancies they claimed to find. The ‘expert’ in the Antrim document also claimed over 100% of registered voters voted in vario…

Note, I made no claim on what is or is not credible. I simply stated that there were experts claiming that. This gives cover for Rudy

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Post by jamiesonbecker »

striking wrote: post #448
xerxespoy wrote: post #373

Be great for threads like these if HN had both: 1) A block function so we could cut the massively-upvoted, one-sided comments and get to the impartial or contrary information buried underneath them. 2) A "unfade" button to see the massively-downvoted comments. I've generally found when threads take on this imbalanced and highly-polarised state, the stuff on the top isn't the cream.

You can collapse threads you no longer intend to read.

> You can collapse threads you no longer intend to read.

True, but only if there's more than one thread on the page.

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Post by javagram »

physicles wrote: post #418
DonHopkins wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which was Trump's original intention for claiming the other side was committing voter fraud even before 2016, to encourage his supporters to do it "too" for him. And it worked.

I’m a Biden supporter but I would love to see some actual sources for this fraud.

Trump told his voters to try to vote twice. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-vote/t...

If anything it’s surprising that Pennsylvania only caught 3 Trump supporters trying to do it (see links in ancestor comment).

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Post by favorited »

N1H1L wrote: post #456

By the way, Dominion sued Powell for a similar amount two weeks back too. And FWIW, there are absolutely ZERO Fox News articles on either lawsuits, while every other news org covered it. I wonder why

Dominion sent document-retention notices to Fox News and other right-wing media outlets, so they might end up on the receiving end of a suit of their own.

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Post by andy_ppp »

akiselev wrote: post #338
vsareto wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rudy also had a cybersecurity company and was named as a cybersecurity advisor. Would that help Dominion's side that this wasn't just crazy beliefs on Giuliani's part and be in favor of actual malice?

IANAL but "they should have known" doesn't follow from how they market themselves as a business unless it's a licensed profession. It's not uncommon for defendants to completely contradict their previous public statements under threat of a lawsuit like all the Fox News lawsuits where their lawyers win by claiming that it's an entertainment channel and their viewers should know better [1]. Beyond that, one can easily…

You are kidding me, their defence in court is that they are bullshit artists, it’s just beyond parody. I’m starting to think we live in something far worse than idiocracy...

Dominion at the very least should be demanding they remove the word “news” from all their branding if this is to fly.

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Post by ardy42 »

dstola wrote: post #376

Instead of filing massive law suits, why doesn't Dominion attempt to prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that the machines were _not_ biased with technical evidence. I feel that open sourcing their code would definitely do the trick. It is kinda baffling that something as important as an election is ran on closed-source proprietary codebase.

> Instead of filing massive law suits, why doesn't Dominion attempt to prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that the machines were _not_ biased with technical evidence.

All right dstola: For the purposes of argument, I accuse you of being a thief who has embezzled millions of dollars from some company you've worked for. Instead of suing me for defamation for my lie, why don't you just prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you didn't steal anything? Maybe you could open source your bank account data, and all your movements to show that you couldn't have opened any secret accounts?

That's a ridiculous ask. The malicious accusation of embezzled is a lie that harmed you, and proving your innocence won't compensate you for the harm caused by that lie. These lawsuits are about the harm done to Dominion.

Also, no analysis of any kind would ever satisfy the people who believe the 2020 election was marred by vote fraud. That belief isn't based on evidence, and massive amounts of evidence to the contrary hasn't convinced those people. There's no reason to think one more report would make any difference.

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Post by 0df8dkdf »

xerxespoy wrote: post #373

Be great for threads like these if HN had both: 1) A block function so we could cut the massively-upvoted, one-sided comments and get to the impartial or contrary information buried underneath them. 2) A "unfade" button to see the massively-downvoted comments. I've generally found when threads take on this imbalanced and highly-polarised state, the stuff on the top isn't the cream.

Who can actually down vote on HN?

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Post by gruez »

xerxespoy wrote: post #373

Be great for threads like these if HN had both: 1) A block function so we could cut the massively-upvoted, one-sided comments and get to the impartial or contrary information buried underneath them. 2) A "unfade" button to see the massively-downvoted comments. I've generally found when threads take on this imbalanced and highly-polarised state, the stuff on the top isn't the cream.

We get it. You want "dissenter" but for HN.

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Post by gruez »

0df8dkdf wrote: post #477
xerxespoy wrote: post #373

Be great for threads like these if HN had both: 1) A block function so we could cut the massively-upvoted, one-sided comments and get to the impartial or contrary information buried underneath them. 2) A "unfade" button to see the massively-downvoted comments. I've generally found when threads take on this imbalanced and highly-polarised state, the stuff on the top isn't the cream.

Who can actually down vote on HN?

you need at least 500 karma.
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