I've always heard you can hurt yourself badly if your form isn't perfect, esp your back. True? If so, how do you help people maintain good form and not screw up their back?
Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
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Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#122Not a rower here. I do however own a concept2 and will never buy a machine in order to try your product. Any way to connect my concept 2?
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#123I have health issues and I try to correlate cause and effect.
I use a rower several times a day, it sits next to my desk. One thing I would love is an API that enables download of key stats like watts, times, etc.
I value raw data over slick apps. I have my own data sources for heart rate, glucose and a few other things. It would be great to integrate this into my home brew system.
Dexcom has a decent API for instance https://developer.dexcom.com
Or start a line of exercise/health equipment that features integrations with fitness watches, indoor air quality monitors(VOC's), blood pressure, glucose, blood oxygen, weather(smog, pollen) etc etc.
It should help answer questions like Does my blood pressure/glucose behave different when: * row for 10 minutes and generate _x_ watts * pollen is high, smog is dense * use a standing desk vs sitting
So far it seems that busting out 10 minutes on a rower seems to have positive effects for at least 24hrs unlike moderate running. I would love to get the actual data on a chart.
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#124Peloton sued GPLama for simply using the word ‘Peloton’. Good luck describing yourself as them!
We don't typically describe ourselves as the Peloton for rowing. But we did so here to make it easy for everyone to understand what we built. We appreciate your concern :)
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#125Parler, Aviron: is the new naming trend gonna be using French words?
HIIT workouts are good but doing some cardio helps. And for beginner rowers I think it is a good idea to have learning programs so they don't fuck-up their back by not using their legs to their full potential. A side camera with some live coaching sessions would be tremondously helpful there.
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#126So fish-game on the Concept2 isn't enough for yall?
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#127Parler, Aviron: is the new naming trend gonna be using French words? HIIT workouts are good but doing some cardio helps. And for beginner rowers I think it is a good idea to have learning programs so they don't fuck-up their back by not using their legs to their full potential. A side camera with some live coaching sessions would be tremondously helpful there.
You're 100% right - and that's the nice thing about purchasing an Aviron rower for your home, you're able to incorporate cardio, strength and HIIT workouts on one machine. We do have learning programs for beginners that show proper form etc. The machine also senses pace and output and will let the user know if they are moving too fast (for example). Live coaching would be cool - thanks for the suggestion!
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#128Long time high level rower here. Why make a new rowing machine when Concept 2 is the calibration standard all athletes use and has a relatively open USB interface? For those not in the know, rowing machines all have different calibrations. C2 is the standard because they're very consistent across machines and are by far the best made allowing for many thousands of hours of use without failures. Most experienced rower…
C2 is really an engineering masterpiece. Simple, works forever, cheap replaceable parts, anyone can do the maintenance after watching a YouTube vid. Also super cool that you can upgrade the display/head unit w/o having to get a new rower. It's also significantly cheaper than this machine and has exceptionally high re-sale value.
The C2 is the best machine I've ever purchased. Ive got 3.6 million lifetime meters on mine, and the most I've ever done to maintain it is wipe down the rail/rollers and put some 3-1 oil on the chain.
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#129Great idea! I used to be a competitive rower. When I was working at a gym during my studies I was actually talking with the managers of running some rowing classes (similar to spinning). I think the main challenge with rowing machines (and the reason why we didn't do rowing classes), is that for beginners there is essentially only hard or off, i.e. it is difficult to adjust to different exhaustion levels. That leads…
We appreciate that. So far the machines have held up in commercial facilities as well as homes and you're right we did our best to make sure they hold up for the long haul!
Re: Launch HN: Aviron (YC W21) – High-Intensity Peloton for Rowing
#130Sounds cool.
Can I sum it up as Aviron is the peloton of the community and Hydrow is the Zwift? The difference being Zwift caters to people who are already vested and more hardcore in some ways where as peloton is the general public who want to try and get a quick good workout?
Also - if you are following the peloton model - how are you going to build out the celebrity following for your athletes? I think that is one of the key components of why people buy in.
Product pricing - are you going lower cost than peloton as you could be considered a substitute product.
Good luck on the journey!