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Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by reaperducer »

xiphias2 wrote: post #4
geek_at wrote: post #2

Has anyone calculated at the current rate of leaks how long would it take for every human on earth to be in some of these lists?

I treat my face, name, birthday and numbers as open data. Maybe companies should stop using these things for verification and start allowing people to use cryptography more efficiently.

I treat my face, name, birthday and numbers as open data.

So because you don't value privacy and choose not to control you personal data, nobody else deserves privacy or to control their personal data?

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by reaperducer »

nicoburns wrote: post #3
geek_at wrote: post #2

Has anyone calculated at the current rate of leaks how long would it take for every human on earth to be in some of these lists?

It doesn't really work like that. Some humans are likely completely off grid and not on record anywhere.

Some humans are likely completely off grid and not on record anywhere.

Quite a few, including a good percentage of my relatives.

One is particularly good at it. Aside from the wages his employer reports to the federal government, property ownership records, and an SSN, he simply doesn't exist.

His get paid each week in cash. Doesn't have a bank account or credit card. Because of his lifestyle and the type of vehicle he uses, he doesn't need a driver's license, registration, or insurance. His home has solar panels, a propane generator, and a well, so no utilities. I don't know what he does about trash service, but having seen the town, I wouldn't be surprised if it's still legal to burn your garbage on your property.

He's happy. Not paranoid that I can tell. He just lives a simple life where satisfaction comes from reading books and improving his mind, and not from hoarding electronic gadgets and social media thumbs to prove his worth.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by xiphias2 »

Pxtl wrote: post #25
lotsofpulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone has cameras. How a photo of yourself with thumbs up isn’t required is beyond me. It’s extremely easy, and would cut down on a lot of fraud.

Which would mean you're constantly sending a photo of yourself with your thumbs up to people, and it becomes trivial to fake. I guess it could be "we need a selfie video of you reading this 6 digit number aloud".

Video verification is completely normal at this point

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by Swizec »

Natsu wrote: post #28
dyingkneepad wrote: post #15

> “No, we have bigger problems than that to worry about.” Pretty much that. In the "Maslow's pyramid of government-related needs", the doxxing is near the top. People are much more worried with stuff like not dying to covid, not being kidnapped, not dying in traffic, paying the dreaded Boletos (bills), etc. Internet doxxing is dwarfed by the more urgent needs. Brazilians are also sure that exactly zero things are goi…

This says that it leaked Brazilians' name & CPF numbers. CPF being the number that people give to every random shopkeeper to enter that tax lottery. So, it's... not exactly a big secret. To do most official-type things you have to go down to the cartório with your actual ID, not just enter the number. Heck, I've been to places where you had to use one to use the free wifi. Granted, in that particular case, it didn't…

Reminds me of the American SSN.

”This number is super secret and you must guard it with your life and never share! Oh also write it down on every semi-official form, send by paper mail, and enter into all sorts of webapps”

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by vmception »

Swizec wrote: post #35
Natsu wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This says that it leaked Brazilians' name & CPF numbers. CPF being the number that people give to every random shopkeeper to enter that tax lottery. So, it's... not exactly a big secret. To do most official-type things you have to go down to the cartório with your actual ID, not just enter the number. Heck, I've been to places where you had to use one to use the free wifi. Granted, in that particular case, it didn't…

Reminds me of the American SSN. ”This number is super secret and you must guard it with your life and never share! Oh also write it down on every semi-official form, send by paper mail, and enter into all sorts of webapps”

I dont bother being secretive about SSN, its security theatre. The person in earshot has a lower likelihood of bothering with it when every service provider that also has it will get mass hacked and are the primary targets.

I use a separate TIN or EIN (Tax/Employer Identification Number) where I can. All my businesses have one, even a sole proprietorship that exists purely in your head can obtain one, and this can go on many forms.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

Swizec wrote: post #35
Natsu wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This says that it leaked Brazilians' name & CPF numbers. CPF being the number that people give to every random shopkeeper to enter that tax lottery. So, it's... not exactly a big secret. To do most official-type things you have to go down to the cartório with your actual ID, not just enter the number. Heck, I've been to places where you had to use one to use the free wifi. Granted, in that particular case, it didn't…

Reminds me of the American SSN. ”This number is super secret and you must guard it with your life and never share! Oh also write it down on every semi-official form, send by paper mail, and enter into all sorts of webapps”

SSN's aren't really secret—you can find someone's pretty easily by going to a data broker.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by lukasdanin »

dyingkneepad wrote: post #15

> “No, we have bigger problems than that to worry about.” Pretty much that. In the "Maslow's pyramid of government-related needs", the doxxing is near the top. People are much more worried with stuff like not dying to covid, not being kidnapped, not dying in traffic, paying the dreaded Boletos (bills), etc. Internet doxxing is dwarfed by the more urgent needs. Brazilians are also sure that exactly zero things are goi…

Unfortunately, you're not wrong.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by jbotz »

The Brazilian blog "Tecnoblog" has the full details here[1], with a list of all the information allegedly included in this data. If they are correct that's pretty much everything about everybody... I mean personal info (like addresses and phones, family, education, employer), financial info (like bank accounts, salary, credit score, creditors, bounced checks, whether receiving government assistance), other background info... for some entries (over a million) there even mugshots!

[1] https://tecnoblog.net/404838/exclusivo-vazamento-que-expos-2...

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