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Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by randerson »

xiphias2 wrote: post #4
geek_at wrote: post #2

Has anyone calculated at the current rate of leaks how long would it take for every human on earth to be in some of these lists?

I treat my face, name, birthday and numbers as open data. Maybe companies should stop using these things for verification and start allowing people to use cryptography more efficiently.

I can just imagine the future: Instead of reading stories of Identity Theft, we'll read about people getting locked out of their identity .. like the folks today who lose their Bitcoin keys.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by gcblkjaidfj »

rapfaria wrote: post #10
atbpaca wrote: post #6

Another embarrassment for Bolsonaro and his minions. #impeachment

How is this directly related to Bolsonaro? Because it happened in the country he is president of?

The original comment is likely a troll, but the current goverment did place a bunch of amateur hacks on the highest positions of power, which led to things like the minister of culture asserting to the public that woman belongs in the kitchen, or that the minister of education asserting in public that the humanities like sociology and history must disappear from the face of earth, and the ministry of environment saying in a leaked video of a presidential meeting that thanks to covid they now had the distraction they needed to kill indians and give the land to soy farmers.

So, even if trollish comment, it is not too removed from truth. I can see how incompetence, cost cuts, corruption and favoritism (he did place all his sons in a trump-like fashion in his cabinet) might have led to this. Not to mention relaxing of oversight and the rule of law which allowed for even more departments (and the private companies working for those) to hold and share this information without concerns.

The previous government (removed illegitimacy in a coup) did place emphasis on digital security. Brazil have safe electronic voting for decades and Brazilians receive a java application by the gov to do their taxes since the 90s. The current gov was elected on the basis of "we will undo everything the last > government did"

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by eznzt »

gcblkjaidfj wrote: post #12
rapfaria wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this directly related to Bolsonaro? Because it happened in the country he is president of?

The original comment is likely a troll, but the current goverment did place a bunch of amateur hacks on the highest positions of power, which led to things like the minister of culture asserting to the public that woman belongs in the kitchen, or that the minister of education asserting in public that the humanities like sociology and history must disappear from the face of earth, and the ministry of environment sayi…

They are not that far off on sociology lol

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by dyingkneepad »

> “No, we have bigger problems than that to worry about.”

Pretty much that. In the "Maslow's pyramid of government-related needs", the doxxing is near the top. People are much more worried with stuff like not dying to covid, not being kidnapped, not dying in traffic, paying the dreaded Boletos (bills), etc. Internet doxxing is dwarfed by the more urgent needs. Brazilians are also sure that exactly zero things are going to be done about these leaks. Some government representative is going to say "we're going to investigate" and that's as much as we're going to get.

I would love to be wrong here, by the way.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by nkrisc »

xiphias2 wrote: post #4
geek_at wrote: post #2

Has anyone calculated at the current rate of leaks how long would it take for every human on earth to be in some of these lists?

I treat my face, name, birthday and numbers as open data. Maybe companies should stop using these things for verification and start allowing people to use cryptography more efficiently.

That won't happen until companies are held liable for damages caused by inadequate authentication processes.

If a bank gives a credit card to someone who says they're me, based on only on my SSN, I don't see why that should be my problem. It's between the bank and whomever they gave the card to. If they don't know who they actually gave it, well then it sounds like they need to improve their process.

But it becomes my problem because it's my credit score that gets ruined.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by rudyfink »

randerson wrote: post #11
xiphias2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I treat my face, name, birthday and numbers as open data. Maybe companies should stop using these things for verification and start allowing people to use cryptography more efficiently.

I can just imagine the future: Instead of reading stories of Identity Theft, we'll read about people getting locked out of their identity .. like the folks today who lose their Bitcoin keys.

"Of course, you can always pay a recovery company to get your identity back. But, that's expensive--more than most people have. The company will do it on credit (if they like your prospects), but then they have title to your identity until you pay them back, which, for many, is a day that never comes. The charges, service fees, garnishments, and interest on the above just add up and up."

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by lotsofpulp »

nkrisc wrote: post #16
xiphias2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I treat my face, name, birthday and numbers as open data. Maybe companies should stop using these things for verification and start allowing people to use cryptography more efficiently.

That won't happen until companies are held liable for damages caused by inadequate authentication processes. If a bank gives a credit card to someone who says they're me, based on only on my SSN, I don't see why that should be my problem. It's between the bank and whomever they gave the card to. If they don't know who they actually gave it, well then it sounds like they need to improve their process. But it becomes m…

Everyone has cameras. How a photo of yourself with thumbs up isn’t required is beyond me. It’s extremely easy, and would cut down on a lot of fraud.

Re: Giant leak exposes data from almost all Brazilians

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Post by Natsu »

gcblkjaidfj wrote: post #12
rapfaria wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this directly related to Bolsonaro? Because it happened in the country he is president of?

The original comment is likely a troll, but the current goverment did place a bunch of amateur hacks on the highest positions of power, which led to things like the minister of culture asserting to the public that woman belongs in the kitchen, or that the minister of education asserting in public that the humanities like sociology and history must disappear from the face of earth, and the ministry of environment sayi…

> The previous government (removed illegitimacy in a coup)

Dilma was impeached and removed, Temer finished her term, then Bolsonaro won the election after getting stabbed, and nearly killed, by opposition supporters. I know he's highly controversial, but he did win the election.

The removal of Dilma is not normally what one would describe as a "coup." The military junta from 1969, however, is.

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