I think this title is askew. The secret sauce here is that this has a GUI CMS that runs without a server. There's plenty of flat file static site generators that don't require a server.
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#22Hmm...it uses the CDN's servers. So "no server" or "getting rid of the server" seems a tad inaccurate.
We have to stop this. Words are either effective at communicating the speakers meaning or not. We all know what is meant by serverless and "without a server" and so you are only introducing ambiguity by purposely confusing the actual meaning with the literal meanings of the individual words. If I call someone an asshole nobody is like "but actually an asshole is just one part of..."
I genuinely thought they meant that the site is client only (perhaps distributed outside of internet) and was curious how that works.
edit: The original title said "with no server". I would understand "serverless", since I'm familiar with that jargon.
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#23Using a service worker to run the build process is actually pretty neat.
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#24Gopher 2.0
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#25I think this title is askew. The secret sauce here is that this has a GUI CMS that runs without a server. There's plenty of flat file static site generators that don't require a server.
Can you list a few? I have been wanting to play with an SSG. (Googling sends me down a rabbit hole.)
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#26"Not everyone can afford the time, money, and effort to maintain a server." Shared hosting doesn't need effort to maintain server and have been done for long time? There are a few free hosting. There is a need for more than just CMS, I have been working on the new idea.
I agree, many always start with the premise "hosting is hard", but maybe this was true 20 years ago, now hosting providers let you spin-up a server in a few clicks, have monitoring, alerts, automatic updates and more. The good part is that for 99.99% of the time, once you set-up a server it could keep on running without issues for many years. I am not a sys-admin but I have used multiple hosting providers (shared, VP…
True, sadly shared hosting still limit with capped disk IO and bandwidth at a premium price which would be similar or more than competitive VPS in performance.
I'm still looking out for competitive VPS provider other than UpCloud if you have any recommendations.
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#27Hmm...it uses the CDN's servers. So "no server" or "getting rid of the server" seems a tad inaccurate.
You're being generous. It's a blatant lie for marketing purposes. Its "solution" is the same as the second problem it claims to avoid.
I got flagged for saying someone is lying and was told
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."
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#28I think this title is askew. The secret sauce here is that this has a GUI CMS that runs without a server. There's plenty of flat file static site generators that don't require a server.
Can you list a few? I have been wanting to play with an SSG. (Googling sends me down a rabbit hole.)
Every single one doesn't require a server. 11ty deployed to Netfliy is probably the most simple way get started.
Because everybody is clamoring to label themselves a react dev, Gatsby is also en vogue. Jekyll is the OG.
But while they don't require a database/server/etc, static sites do require a spaghetti mess of fragile dependencies on build, so have fun troubleshooting that.
TBH I don't build static sites anymore. They're cool for one-off pages, but any site that needs new content and regular updating is going to turn into a nightmare if you go the SSG route. And don't get me started on the many downsides of Headless CMS's.
In fact, the "evil Saas solutions" that this landing page bemoans are now exactly what I want. I've gone full Webflow now. Saas is just a better model for everybody involved.
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#29CDN is still a server. It can still go down and can get hacked. You can still lock yourself into a CDN provider.
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#30I kinda feel like the premise is already pretty amiss - a simple, small site that serves static pages puts absolutely no demand on "running a server", you're perfectly fine with a basic hosting plan that will require little to zero maintenance and be really cheap. The idea that you'd have to "run a server" or else "use ready made SaaS platform" feels like a constructed problem.
Isn't that basic hosting plan still a ready made SaaS platform?
Not in the sense of that blogpost. They say about SAAS:
> Problem: The service provider will lock you in. No full control over your content.
this is clearly does not apply to basic hosting plans. You have full control, an there is no lock-in at all -- all of those hosting plans are basically equivalent.