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Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by eplanit »

umvi wrote: post #3

At what number can we stop wearing masks, stop social distancing, start dining in, etc.? That's the number I care about. Because until somebody influential picks that number, we'll just keep masking and social distancing until the end of time.

By Springtime (in 45-60 days) we'll be at the one year mark, fatigued by masks, rules, shutdowns, and authoritarians, in general. The news will be tedious about how many are being vaccinated (it will be a lot) -- and, the weather will turn warmer.

Then, many/most will say _fuck it_, I'm taking my life back. I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by duckfang »

worker767424 wrote: post #117
supertrope wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how you know he's a physician and not a politician. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/fauci-says-us-has-independen...

I dunno, politicians seem pretty good at lying to people. In seriousness, I believe him when he said he's not a politician. What he doesn't get is that that's half his job.

So how do you tell if its just bad politics and lying -versus- accurately giving updated research data, and making recommendations upon that?

It's damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by HarryHirsch »

eplanit wrote: post #121
umvi wrote: post #3

At what number can we stop wearing masks, stop social distancing, start dining in, etc.? That's the number I care about. Because until somebody influential picks that number, we'll just keep masking and social distancing until the end of time.

By Springtime (in 45-60 days) we'll be at the one year mark, fatigued by masks, rules, shutdowns, and authoritarians, in general. The news will be tedious about how many are being vaccinated (it will be a lot) -- and, the weather will turn warmer. Then, many/most will say _fuck it_, I'm taking my life back. I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it.

I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it

Are you into apocalypses? There's the British quick-spreading strain, and there are the Brazilian and South African variants that the vaccine does not offer good protection against. I predict that COVID will be like Picardy Fever, not like the Spanish Flu - there will be outbreaks every few years here and there.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by Invictus0 »

cobookman wrote: post #93

America has ~330 million people. Let's assume the 18.7 Million was just in the month of january..not 100% acurate, but not 100% inaccurate. That gives us a timeline of more than 1 year at current rate to vaccinate the entire US. Even vaccinating 70% the population will take roughly a year at current pace. Puts things in some perspective.

Production is still ramping up though; we haven't even started to receive the J&J vaccine.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by metamet »

randmeerkat wrote: post #116
metamet wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That you don't want them to get it and die, like my grandma did? I'm not quite sure how you can convince someone to get a vaccine if they don't trust the science on it.

I’m sorry your grandma died.

Thank you. My grandma tested positive on a Monday around a month ago and went into hospice the following Thursday night, when her oxygen dropped. She passed away the following Saturday morning.

My girlfriend's grandma also passed from COVID a few weeks ago. When it rains it pours, eh?

The whole thing is just horrible to deal with. Not having a chance to say goodbye or go through the grieving process together.

It's just so hard to comprehend how 419k+ other families in the US have experienced similar loss.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by supertrope »

eikenberry wrote: post #109
supertrope wrote: post #95

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Old people 65+ are about 90% of hospitalizations and deaths. Israel finished vaccinating their seniors and hospital admissions are down 60%.

If the 65+ group made up 90% of the hospitalizations and they all have been vaccinated, do they know why are the hospitalization numbers down only 40%?

Whoops, it's 60% drop two days after the second shot. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-sees-60-drop-in-hospita...

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by xienze »

umvi wrote: post #3

At what number can we stop wearing masks, stop social distancing, start dining in, etc.? That's the number I care about. Because until somebody influential picks that number, we'll just keep masking and social distancing until the end of time.

> At what number can we stop wearing masks, stop social distancing, start dining in, etc.?

Not long after we’re allowed to carry more than 3 ounces of liquid on an airplane, if I had to guess.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by artificialLimbs »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #123
eplanit wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By Springtime (in 45-60 days) we'll be at the one year mark, fatigued by masks, rules, shutdowns, and authoritarians, in general. The news will be tedious about how many are being vaccinated (it will be a lot) -- and, the weather will turn warmer. Then, many/most will say _fuck it_, I'm taking my life back. I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it.

I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it Are you into apocalypses? There's the British quick-spreading strain, and there are the Brazilian and South African variants that the vaccine does not offer good protection against. I predict that COVID will be like Picardy Fever, not like the Spanish Flu - there will be outbreaks every few years here and there.

Gotta watch out for those 99% survival rate apocalypses. They'll getcha.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by rmk »

AndrewBissell wrote: post #118
rmk wrote: post #39

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No one will pay the political price of causing infections among children by reopening rapidly. And I'd like to believe that as a society, we are cautious about letting children be infected with a novel disease whose long-term effects are unknown.

Inflicting on all children the certain damage of social isolation, screen learning, and further economic precarity, to avoid theoretical and undemonstrated long-term effects (of a perhaps serious but not crippling nature) to a small percentage of them, does not strike me as societal wisdom in any way. Also, do you know what else has unknown long-term effects in children?

I'm not arguing that children should be kept out of in-person school. In fact, I'm against it, and was against it even when the pandemic was raging last year. I agree with you that children have been silent victims of schoolteachers' refusal to do in-person school. I do, however, strongly support reasonable precautions including masking and physical distancing, which can be achieved with children (not very young children, but certainly 2nd grade and up) with continual reinforcement until it becomes a habit.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by metamet »

guscost wrote: post #113
metamet wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That you don't want them to get it and die, like my grandma did? I'm not quite sure how you can convince someone to get a vaccine if they don't trust the science on it.

I’m not sure how much of it is fear of the MRNA vaccine itself, and how much is an objection to the creepy fascist context. Probably a lot of both, and maybe yes a bit too much of the former. But in any case their reply is, “We would rather take the risk.” If they get sick and die like your grandma (condolences), they will have done so at least partially by choice, a choice which they have damn well earned by their m…

You could encourage them to keep in mind that by refusing to get vaccinated, they're likely going to be living the rest of their life under threat of contracting COVID.

It seems that those who are vaccinated can still spread it, and I don't believe we're going to be in a place where COVID is eliminated altogether anytime soon. There will continue to be outbreaks, and it's possible that those who are vaccinated will pick it up and pass it around, and the further mutations of it seem to be increasing its rate of spread.

But you're right. It is their choice.

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