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Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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post #10

There was a pizza hut franchise in Santa Cruz that would also do online orders in the same time period. The HDQ eventually worked with that franchise owner and made "pizza net". They still have the old page up: https://www.pizzahut.com/assets/pizzanet/home.html

This redirected me to my local pizzahut.com.au, and I get an Access Denied via curl :(

Google's cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps...

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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Oh man, this is great. He even had a .costenarc file with the options, haha. If I was him, I wouldn't have added the "lengua" option. I have not yet met a person that likes to eat lengua.

Nice to meet you, now you know one :)

Tacos de lengua are quite popular in Mexico, probably catering to the Mexican-American community over there.

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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post #15
post #7

I wish we could have something similar in modern times. Instead, we have a handful of equally-shitty delivery platforms with terrible and bloated UIs and no API.

I was just thinking of this. I have a couple spots near my office (when that is a thing) that have this exact problem. Big lunch rush with long lines. Everyone has a phone number. It's amazing what a regression the modern web is over 150 year old tech like Fax. It's a totally federated still widespread platform. All you need is a directory and some idea of an order form. You can probably pick up a form the first time…

how is fax 150 years old?

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just thinking of this. I have a couple spots near my office (when that is a thing) that have this exact problem. Big lunch rush with long lines. Everyone has a phone number. It's amazing what a regression the modern web is over 150 year old tech like Fax. It's a totally federated still widespread platform. All you need is a directory and some idea of an order form. You can probably pick up a form the first time…

how is fax 150 years old?

All the way back to 1843 - fascinating!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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Oh man, this is great. He even had a .costenarc file with the options, haha. If I was him, I wouldn't have added the "lengua" option. I have not yet met a person that likes to eat lengua.

Lengua is great - you just have to get it from a place that sells enough of it so that it isn’t old or bad.

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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post #7

I wish we could have something similar in modern times. Instead, we have a handful of equally-shitty delivery platforms with terrible and bloated UIs and no API.

Have you read the documentation for this beast? It is complete but I would not describe it as easy to use. To be fair, we could probably slap an API and a GUI on top of this nonsense:

$ burrito -time +:30 b+g+cc+jf+jf+sf+sc-sc+i"Black Beans"+n:2/Ross \ b+v:cc+g+cm+sc+i"no rice"/Kathie

(sigh no double dash long options and a horrific base food specification thingie - yes it is complete and well formed but it is still bollocks:

FoodSpec::=[options*][/] ::= [b|t|m|q|T] (burrito, taco, mexico city, quesadilla, Taqitaco) )

RLY? Even in 1992 RAM was not too scarce. There was no reason to be so compact in form. If it was then those + symbols can go and better choices of options made to avoid ambiguity.

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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Can't help but wonder if receiving a professionally typeset burrito order by fax would have raised any eyebrows in 1992.

Not at la costeña. They were pretty imperturbable. Plus it was here in the Valley, where apartments that came with internet connections had been around for a couple of years. This was all pre web of course.

I drove past that corner just the other day. The old crappy building has long been torn down and replaced by a modern multistory building. The burrito operation had long moved across the street and a little down the road to a former fast food joint but I believe is gone now.

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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This brings back the memories. Another true story to add to this one. I (like many Sun cohorts) loved the burritos at La Costeña market, and we had adopted the FAX trick from Adobe.

Then along came the "Distributed Objects Everywhere" project (which invented CORBA) and they wanted an example application so they created "BurritoTool" which used CORBA to find the server that was connected to the fax line, and a nice WYSIWYG window to select your burrito condiments. Everyone loved it, it was a great tool and we all used it.

Then one day we show up and they tell us they have turned off their fax machine. We asked why, and they show us faxes for burrito orders that started coming in at 6AM and went non-stop until they turned it off. Some seemed legit but many were clearly not from someone who knew the place.

We go back to the office and do some snooping and see a bunch of requests to the burrito server in the wee hours before anyone is at work. We trace the IP address to a hotel in New York city. We call the Hotel and as it turns out Sun Sales is hosting an event and one of the things they are showing off at the "pavilion" is our cool distributed object technology. And using Burritotool! But CORBA has done its job and when it hadn't been told there was a local burrito server it sent packets back to HQ and found the one in the systems group lab. Starting at 9AM eastern and going all morning long, people had been making random burrito orders as part of the demo code!

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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post #7

I wish we could have something similar in modern times. Instead, we have a handful of equally-shitty delivery platforms with terrible and bloated UIs and no API.

I wish we could have something similar in modern times. Instead, we have a handful of equally-shitty delivery platforms with terrible and bloated UIs and no API.

Wasn't Google supposed to solve this for us? Wasn't the news crammed for a week with demos of a disembodied Google-powered ordering Chinese food by telephone?

What ever happened to that?

Re: Ordering burritos from my SPARC (1992)

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just thinking of this. I have a couple spots near my office (when that is a thing) that have this exact problem. Big lunch rush with long lines. Everyone has a phone number. It's amazing what a regression the modern web is over 150 year old tech like Fax. It's a totally federated still widespread platform. All you need is a directory and some idea of an order form. You can probably pick up a form the first time…

how is fax 150 years old?

Sorry, 178 year old tech.
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