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Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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I am a little surprised that so many responses suggested optimization to your technique but not how to solve the problem at root. I am neither a shrink nor your shrink but I think it's probably safe to say that whatever is affecting your sleep is probably affecting other parts of your life too, and while you mentioned a very difficult time - our bodies and brains don't by default react in most helpful says (eg - keep…

I specifically did not want to describe my specific crisis because I didn't want to distract from the conversation of my solution to the sleep-impacting aspect of the stress. We are also dealing with the source of my/our stress, and it should be resolved one way or another in the next few months. It's a 24x7 crisis for us that's complex and we're all working on it. This isn't routine work stress. I have also used som…

Is that darkroom site a reference to, or pulled from, something? A quick search for that string only turned up that site, and this ( https://brill.com/view/book/edcoll/9781848880528/BP000023.xm... ) which seems unrelated.

Anyways, thanks for the link, I bookmarked it. Might also make a local version of it and set it as my homepage.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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Stress resilience is one of the most important things when it comes to knowledge work, also one of the most neglected aspect. Mindfulness, stoicism, exercise help, but nothing helps as much as a good night sleep. Also the other thing people usually fail to note is the vicious stress-sleep cycle (lack of sleep induced stress stress induced lack of sleep). It took me years to realize that so much of my problems with be…

During a very difficult time in my life recently, I found it impossible to sleep. I would have stress nightmares and even when i did fall asleep, I would soon wake myself up with specific scenarios my mind was trying to work out. I was incapacitated by this, which exacerbated my situation. I eventually noticed that I could fall asleep if I sat with my daughters while they watched TV. This evolved to me falling asleep…

I've found a similar solution to my sleep problems.

I used to fall asleep listening to audio books. I eventually found audio books that are barely interesting, with certain narration styles to put me to sleep faster.

I now have a series of audio books, mostly gumshoe detective novels, that I use to sleep on nights when I'm dealing with stress. I set the sleep timer for 6 hours, and invariably get a good night of sleep.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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Many of us are wearing devices with continuous optical heart rate monitors. Heart rate variability at rest is one of the best indicators of stress and these devices are pretty good at estimating sleep duration and sleep cycles. Regulators need to recognize that continuous tracking devices are a new tool for establishing a health baseline and they should not be expected to match the performance of single-test medical…

There's a DIY-ish service that can be self hosted (not sure if it's still maintained) that tracks all kinds of data in a way that you can share with a physician. It's called Fluxtream, and might take a few extra keywords to find. Written in Java+Spring. I haven't used it myself. Putting more and more of our data, especially health data, in the hands of others is the wrong direction to be moving IMO.

Oh boy, you're not wrong. People apparently love using that to name projects.

Found it though: https://github.com/fluxtream

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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Stress resilience is one of the most important things when it comes to knowledge work, also one of the most neglected aspect. Mindfulness, stoicism, exercise help, but nothing helps as much as a good night sleep. Also the other thing people usually fail to note is the vicious stress-sleep cycle (lack of sleep induced stress stress induced lack of sleep). It took me years to realize that so much of my problems with be…

During a very difficult time in my life recently, I found it impossible to sleep. I would have stress nightmares and even when i did fall asleep, I would soon wake myself up with specific scenarios my mind was trying to work out. I was incapacitated by this, which exacerbated my situation. I eventually noticed that I could fall asleep if I sat with my daughters while they watched TV. This evolved to me falling asleep…

I had a critical acute stressor a few years ago, I wont describe the situation, but the symptoms were:

- panic attacks

- waking up into a panic attack; imagine sleeping, then waking hyperventilating, shivering, and for lack of a better word "freaking out"

- sleep disturbances

- periodic severe emotional disturbance

- inability to remove the stressors, and critically, I had to increase the stressors involved as it was time critical

I was able to take two weeks off from work, and I took escitalopram.

I didn't find escitalopram to be ... a game changer, but it did allow me to "decide" how I was going to feel, and if I felt I was going to have a panic attack, I could head that off through feedback and self aware thinking.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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I had this, now much improved: * have an early dinner. I eat at 4 or 5 pm. This is extreme, but earlier will probably help if possible. No snacks after dinner * Get light exposure as early as possible after waking. A morning walk is good * Exercise close to waking. In practice I do a 7 min workout, eat and walk * blue light blocking glasses help * A sleep mask can help. I use a manta mask + their glasses. I don’t act…

> Decide to get ready for bed even if you’re not sleepy. Thank you for reminding me of this. Two years ago I had a sleeping revolution and I had success with a barrage of efforts I did, most notably giving up caffeine and having this routine, and ensuring 100% darkness. But I have to recognize that I lost the routine now.

Oh I forgot, I stopped caffeine too. That helped I think, I just drink decaf now.

But yeah simply deciding to start each night is the stupidest yet most effective thing. I think it’s easy to forget this as sleep sort of feels like a non activity vs. say working out or reading etc where deciding to do the thing is obviously the first step.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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Many of us are wearing devices with continuous optical heart rate monitors. Heart rate variability at rest is one of the best indicators of stress and these devices are pretty good at estimating sleep duration and sleep cycles. Regulators need to recognize that continuous tracking devices are a new tool for establishing a health baseline and they should not be expected to match the performance of single-test medical…

> Many of us are wearing devices with continuous optical heart rate monitors.

I don't know how representative you folks are. I know a few people who invest time, money, and effort into tracking and measuring every aspect of their health. It looks like neuroticism to me. Especially when they look for explainations of every blip on every chart.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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Stress resilience is one of the most important things when it comes to knowledge work, also one of the most neglected aspect. Mindfulness, stoicism, exercise help, but nothing helps as much as a good night sleep. Also the other thing people usually fail to note is the vicious stress-sleep cycle (lack of sleep induced stress stress induced lack of sleep). It took me years to realize that so much of my problems with be…

During a very difficult time in my life recently, I found it impossible to sleep. I would have stress nightmares and even when i did fall asleep, I would soon wake myself up with specific scenarios my mind was trying to work out. I was incapacitated by this, which exacerbated my situation. I eventually noticed that I could fall asleep if I sat with my daughters while they watched TV. This evolved to me falling asleep…

When I get to sleep with sound in the background it usually gets incorporated in my dreams. Recently fell asleep while listening to a podcast about file systems and in my dreams all my family members were talking about files systems and B-trees. Didn't feel well rested in the morning. But something like white-noise or different nature sounds could be much better. There are apps that play different droning sounds like train or plain noises, forest sounds, seaside waves etc.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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During a very difficult time in my life recently, I found it impossible to sleep. I would have stress nightmares and even when i did fall asleep, I would soon wake myself up with specific scenarios my mind was trying to work out. I was incapacitated by this, which exacerbated my situation. I eventually noticed that I could fall asleep if I sat with my daughters while they watched TV. This evolved to me falling asleep…

Putting on my armchair psychologist/anthropologist/whatever hat, I find the fact that you can sleep better with people speaking around you very interesting. I wonder if we are built to feel comfortable when we can hear people whom we trust (your background conversations in this case) speaking as we sleep? Means someone else we trust is awake and can be observant of dangers while we nod off.

I have struggled with sleep at night for at least 15 years now. I get very sleepy in food courts (general hubbub in a safe feeling surrounding) and as a child who hated cricket I dozed off on the couch more than once when it was on. There's something calming about a low level of crowd noise.

Re: Lack of sleep, stress can lead to symptoms resembling concussion

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Stress resilience is one of the most important things when it comes to knowledge work, also one of the most neglected aspect. Mindfulness, stoicism, exercise help, but nothing helps as much as a good night sleep. Also the other thing people usually fail to note is the vicious stress-sleep cycle (lack of sleep induced stress stress induced lack of sleep). It took me years to realize that so much of my problems with be…

> revenge bedtime procrastination: a phenomenon in which people who don't have much control over their daytime life refuse to sleep early in order to regain some sense of freedom during late night hours.

For me, it started as more of a reverse-Christmas situation - if I go to sleep, the next thing I know I'll be having to got to work and I really don't want that!

Which sometimes lead to the strange situation of going to bed earlier on weekends.

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