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SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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"The number beats the previous record of 104 satellites carried aloft by an Indian vehicle in 2017" Does this vehicle not have a name? Or is the reporter too lazy to look it up? BBC never fails when it comes to its Anti-India stance.

Not sure why you’re offended, but on the world stage, India is largely a joke.

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know these cubesats don't stay up for long in LEO, but at what point does it become too many cubesats?

How can we spin this as a bad thing, right?

I'm not spinning anything, and the scenario I'm responding to (62k satellites in one launch) has not occurred. I've been a fan of SpaceX for years, but apparently even a whiff of anything short of pure adoration is enough to send some fanboys into a tizzy. It's tiresome.

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Are satellites the size of books required to have a method of self de-orbiting? Or are they in orbits that have limited lifespans?

The orbits have a 5 year life span and the satellites can deorbit. The satellites actually use propulsion to stay in their orbit!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So one current generation Starlink satellite is estimated to weight about 260. One one unit cubesat weighs 1 kg. So discounting small details like deployment mechanisms and volume: 260 x 240 = 62400 cubesats for one Starship launch by weight.

I know these cubesats don't stay up for long in LEO, but at what point does it become too many cubesats?

Good point, if you put too many in one place it might cause a gravitational collapse & create a new singularity.

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So one current generation Starlink satellite is estimated to weight about 260. One one unit cubesat weighs 1 kg. So discounting small details like deployment mechanisms and volume: 260 x 240 = 62400 cubesats for one Starship launch by weight.

I know these cubesats don't stay up for long in LEO, but at what point does it become too many cubesats?

There are more than 1 billion cars on earth. Cubesats are smaller than a car and can be distributed in an additional dimension (altitude). I think there is little risk of oversaturation currently.

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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"The number beats the previous record of 104 satellites carried aloft by an Indian vehicle in 2017" Does this vehicle not have a name? Or is the reporter too lazy to look it up? BBC never fails when it comes to its Anti-India stance.

"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

Nationalistic flamewar is particularly not where we want to go here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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post #2

"The number beats the previous record of 104 satellites carried aloft by an Indian vehicle in 2017" Does this vehicle not have a name? Or is the reporter too lazy to look it up? BBC never fails when it comes to its Anti-India stance.

Not sure why you’re offended, but on the world stage, India is largely a joke.

Nationalistic flamewar is not ok here, regardless of whether another comment started it. It just leads to hell, so please don't post like this to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So one current generation Starlink satellite is estimated to weight about 260. One one unit cubesat weighs 1 kg. So discounting small details like deployment mechanisms and volume: 260 x 240 = 62400 cubesats for one Starship launch by weight.

I know these cubesats don't stay up for long in LEO, but at what point does it become too many cubesats?

This CalPoly presentation takes an ecological view and suggests that constellations of several hundred or more could be too many, if poorly managed. I would hope that we could manage orders of magnitude more safely with planning/control software and good thinking. http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~workshop/archive/2016/Spring/Da...

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Are satellites the size of books required to have a method of self de-orbiting? Or are they in orbits that have limited lifespans?

Usually, a satellite that launches from a country has to abide by that country's regulations.

As a requirement for getting regulatory approval to launch your satellite, I think you have to submit a debris management plan, which can include raising a geostationary satellite to a graveyard orbit after EOL (GEO is really far from earth, it would take a lot of fuel to de-orbit them), or lower a low-earth orbit to an altitude at which it would decay in a few weeks or years.

Generally, I think these small satellites are quite cheap both to launch and manufacture, do not have a great lifespan, and certainly not have lots of fuel. So they are most likely intended for LEO, and a low one with that, where atmospheric drag is small, but could bring a satellite down in a few (~5-7) years. Hopefully smaller than the rate at which the operator renews them.

Picking LEO has many benefits: lower latency, higher bandwidth, smaller antennas, higher resolution for pictures, with a few drawbacks: more earth shadow, faster ground velocity, smaller coverage for earth sensors.

Re: SpaceX: World record number of satellites launched

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Something that might not be obvious for people not following space flight closely: this was a launch into a polar orbit from Florida. In the past these would have launched from Vandenberg airforce base in California because there is a clear path towards the south from there. So, how is SpaceX doing that now? They are conducting a so-called „dog leg“ maneuver. This trajectory leads the rocket further out to the east over the ocean before it turns south. This is to avoid to fly over land/populated area. This had not been done in decades if I remember correctly.

More stuff: the first Starlink satellites for polar orbits also launched on this flight. As I understand these were the first ones to have inter-satellite laser links too.

(I can’t imagine what an improvement cheap and high bandwidth satellite Internet must be for stations in Antarctica.)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1353408098342326276

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