Can someone contextualize this post somewhat, for readers who have been living under a rock and don't know about the Fediverse nor who is "we" at "infosec-handbook"?
Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
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Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#32I would argue that what is described in this post is inherent in all social networks. The wonderful thing about the Fediverse is that depending on the node you connect to, or the people you choose to federate with (in the event that you have your own instance) that your experience will be vastly different. It’s given me some of the most enjoyable interactions I’ve ever had online in the last ten years. You need to ha…
Pleroma-link for those too lazy to search:
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#33I've hosted a mastodon instance since 2017 and I see one general misunderstanding over and over, on mastodon or on fediverse related subreddits. People think it's a completely new concept. People seem to have forgotten, or not been part of, all the message boards we used to have during the late 90s and all throughout the 2000s. The ONLY thing Mastodon brings to this is federation. You used to have accounts on over a…
Mastodon and the Fediverse have often been advertised as "microblogging" tools, and the post length is mainly around the same as one would see on Twitter. That is a big difference from old-time message boards, where longform text was welcome and normal.
(Even if the Fediverse does support long post lengths, that matters little if the community has not embraced it.)
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#34This article doesn't discuss why the organization in question didn't just self-host their own fediverse presence, perhaps using a CMS plugin like one available for WordPress. I'm not familiar at all with this "InfoSec Handbook" group but what I'd like to see at some point is a software platform that allows organizations to spin up fedi presences at their own domain (Write.as does this, but it'd be nice to have other…
yeah I thought that was the point of it. Sounds like the article authors don't get the Fediverse, and use it interchangeably with Mastodon. It's like saying Linux sucks because it's so complicated, having only tried one distro (i.e. Arch)
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#35I would argue that what is described in this post is inherent in all social networks. The wonderful thing about the Fediverse is that depending on the node you connect to, or the people you choose to federate with (in the event that you have your own instance) that your experience will be vastly different. It’s given me some of the most enjoyable interactions I’ve ever had online in the last ten years. You need to ha…
Is that the only benefit of Pleroma over Mastodon? Have you checked Misskey before https://join.misskey.page/en/? It looks interesting too...
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#36Can someone contextualize this post somewhat, for readers who have been living under a rock and don't know about the Fediverse nor who is "we" at "infosec-handbook"?
Wikipedia has an article on the Fediverse, to sum it up it's a community of communities based on open web standards:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
I don't know anything about this "infosec-handbook" group.
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#37Besides Pleroma mentioned elsewhere in this thread, has anyone checked our Misskey (https://join.misskey.page/en/)? It has some interesting features, like arranging your own virtual room and sharing it with others. I've not seen much of it yet.
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#38I've hosted a mastodon instance since 2017 and I see one general misunderstanding over and over, on mastodon or on fediverse related subreddits. People think it's a completely new concept. People seem to have forgotten, or not been part of, all the message boards we used to have during the late 90s and all throughout the 2000s. The ONLY thing Mastodon brings to this is federation. You used to have accounts on over a…
You don't have 'sort by most recent replied to topic' and a forum subtopic view like most message boards do although. There is a hard enforcement of posts sorted by initial post time.
Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#39There's subtext here, right? Is this related to Gab and the rest? From their earlier post about Fediverse: >Some parties in the Fediverse demand “self-censorship.” Especially when we talk about particular services or products, individuals contact us and demand that we delete our posts. “We shouldn’t talk about the topic,” so other people don’t start to use these “evil” services and products. In our opinion, such dema…
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Re: Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
#40> The “I read headlines only” problem This remains true for most platforms, not just those in the fediverse. HN is one example! I am reading this article with great interest. I've recently started exploring fediverse platforms with much excitement. I'm more interested in building a community at the moment, and although this can be achieved with a classic bulletin board system, the fediverse had me curious.
> HN is one example! actually i think HN - ie. the comments, especially TLDR - is an example of, at least partial, solution, and this is why me like many other people usually go straight for the comments instead of the original article/post.
I think that is due to the quality of the commenters here and to the subtle, but effective, moderation provided by dang and the other mods.
And the latter is at least partially responsible for the former.
The voting system is also crucial, imho.