Know what would be great? Social media that isn't user-hostile.
Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems overly glib. Facebook’s monopoly status means it’s necessary for many people. As per the post, if this person were a small business owner, or simply not well-connected elsewhere, this could be both financially and personally devastating. As it is, he’s only protected because he has other access to business and personal pages. One company shouldn’t have this sort of arbitrary power over people’s lives.
I find the idea of Facebook being "necessary" for anyone quite spectacularly laughable. This isn't, air or water. You can live without it, and many people happily do. Facebook is about as essential as essential oils.
I can give my personal example of how facebook is literally a life-saver for me, and I'm sure there are many others.
I'm strongly passionate about rock climbing, and try to structure my life around it as my primary form of recreation. If I'm traveling for leisure, climbing is a big part of the agenda. There are many communities for finding people to climb with on Facebook, and I've used them extensively.
Without facebook, I'd more often have to resort to self-belaying, which is much more dangerous (among other reasons, if you're knocked unconscious there's no one to start a rescue or call for help). Having access to the various regional climbing groups on facebook has put me in touch with so many people, so I have only had to do that on a handful of occasions.
There are other examples I can think of, even if none of them have been so drastic. But without access to Facebook, many people would have their lives seriously impacted, and possible lack of access to life-saving resources.
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#223I think FB has a fundamental issue here, which is that: 1) they don't feel they can NOT police content 2) they are wayyyyy too big to police content manually 3) any AI they train to police content, is not going to be able to state clearly why a given post/account was banned, and anyway... 4) if you state objective, clear rules that are automated, it will be pretty easy to game them (e.g. using euphemisms or code word…
Which is why social media networks should make the far easier rule that they will only ban illegal content. If people want something censored, make it illegal. If people don't like they things are being censored, take it up with their local representative.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with this comment. The article and parent comments probably were doing some scam, either by the people themselves or if they were hacked. Lots of people criticize Facebook all the time and have no issues.
You just accused me of being a scammer for creating a Twitter account and making a single tweet and getting banned the same day. What is wrong with you?
I really wouldn't worry about it. Based on the 160 incoming bytes that I've read so far, and a few status bits I've skimmed over, I've determined that they are not in fact a real person.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where's the problem in that? FB makes 18.5 billion $ a year in profit. 250k employees @ 30k would work out to 7.5 billion $ in cost a year, it would hardly leave them bankrupt. Also, Facebook could offset a part of that cost by charging users a token amount - say, five dollars or something like that.
First, it’s $7.5 billion freaking dollars. Of OpEx. Second, it’s 250k human moderators who will feel obligated to, you know, moderate stuff. They’re not paying $7.5 bil to just allow people to post whatever content they want now! Very quickly they will run out obviously clear-cut cases and will be moderating anything and everything under the sun. How anyone could think 250,000 people running around with mod powers on…
> First, it’s $7.5 billion freaking dollars. Of OpEx.
So what? If that cost is necessary to run a platform that is safe for those who are on it (= from spammers, catfishers, threats, pedophiles or right-wing extremists) and that does not serve as a breeding ground for threats for society (= "freemen"/"Reichsbürger" groups, militias, neo-Nazis, antisemites, Qanon, ...), then this cost should be paid by the ones making the profit (=Facebook), not society.
> Second, it’s 250k human moderators who will feel obligated to, you know, moderate stuff.
So what? The digital equivalent of police(wo)men on patrol. Just because it's The Internet, it should not be a free-for-all land.
> How anyone could think 250,000 people running around with mod powers on people’s Facebook walls is not deeply, deeply problematic
The US alone has nearly 700k police officers for 300M people, that are running around with guns and regularly kill people, and yet society accepts this.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't want strangers looking at the content I post to my friends. Full stop.
Seems logical if you're using their stuff, they get to do anything they want with what you put there. Expect them to read every word, and use it to make money.
You are right that this is the status quo.
But I do have to say that it is neither how the law works in many places, not is it ethically correct.
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#227ML engineers do not realize frequently enough that many of their algorithms, as beautiful as they are, still essentially fit a conditional expectation. For example the last logit layer that undoubtedly decided to ban the op here.
I always wonder why almost all papers and essentially all tutorials and courses spend literally zero time discussing whether that is the right thing to estimate.
In the future, when these algorithms decide everything about our lives, people will either conform and uniformize themselves to the expectation,
or they will find themselves secretly banned, silenced, left out, rejected or whatever it is, always without knowledge why and without recourse.
It’ll be strange for people, if we even hear about it.
But it is, well, expected.
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m banned from Twitter without explanation. I made an account, followed 3-4 tech celebrities like Paul graham, and posted a single tweet similar to “I finally got pressured into making a dumb Twitter account...” The account got banned for community violations within an hour and my support email said that my requests for support would not be responded to. Years later, I’m working on a video game and I’m worried this…
Other good suggestions here, but here’s another: you tripped the New Bot Account detector. As your account ages there will be more information about whether you are real or not. Stopping the influx of bots before they do damage is important. Therefore it’s quite likely that Twitter ban accounts early if they look like bots based on not much info (and potentially if they look low value). You followed a few people who…
That is one explanation, but the explanation I tend to believe is another: Twitter quickly bans new accounts to force you to "prove your identity" by adding a phone number.
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#229"Gee, you're using my platform to promote disbanding my platform, I'm totally okay with that, keep going!"
Probably a good idea to remember here, that Facebook is a private company, not a public utility.. The actual problem is that there is no public-utility alternative to Facebook.
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