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Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Re: Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Post by jakelazaroff »

westoque wrote: post #4

I hope we again see the value of using systems like Wordpress for it’s simplicity in getting a blog/website setup and easily modify content. Lately most of the modern marketing websites I see is built using gatsby and next.js. Having been talking to different content/marketing teams, they hate it so much because of the complexity it brings. Editing content? Sign in to this headless CRM app, want a form? Go sign in to…

Is that because WordPress is simple, though? There are similar CMSes you can use with e.g. Gatsby. They’re just a glorified build systems, after all — there’s nothing inherently complex about the content management experience. And on the flip side, it’s possible to load up WordPress with enough plugins that it becomes a nightmare to use.

I think we see people choose WordPress because it’s familiar, popular, battle-tested and has a big community with a lot of plugins. It’s a good choice for a lot of people. But that doesn’t mean people picking other options are just taken in by the hype.

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Post by lemonberry »

nkozyra wrote: post #5
julianlam wrote: post #2

In this age where the trend is JAM stack, it is refreshing to see that something battle-tested like WordPress was chosen. There's a reason WP has withstood the test of time. (WordPress developers being a dime a dozen also help make the case)

That reason might be familiarity. Or inertia. Or breadth of available resources to work with it, as you mentioned. Or all of the above. And that might be a good enough reason, but to imply it's the best technical option warrants some skepticism.

I'm not asking this to be snarky, but by what metric would you decide something was the best technical option?

Re: Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Post by KayL »

I'm surprised they dropped the IE supports. (It's failed on my testing, and the CSS syntax they used shown they never think about it.) For their 2% rules, they shouldn't drop the minors. https://github.com/uswds/uswds/issues/3877

This is a super clean and simple feature website. They could offer supports very widely, and the cost won't be high! (I'm a web developer)

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Post by e2le »

I'm disappointed by their choice in site design and I'm sure it'll be infuriating to interact with for those with disabilities. It's a real wasted opportunity to use this instead of something more battle tested and fit for purpose such as the design used by the gov.uk site.

https://www.gov.uk/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles/

Re: Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Post by Angostura »

steviedotboston wrote: post #3

> Political affiliations aside, I think we can all breathe a bit easier today knowing they didn’t choose Drupal. Strongly disagree. Drupal is a great CMS and there's a reason the government uses it so extensively.

I'm pretty sure the Obama administration used Drupal 6. Current Drupal is rather a different beast

Re: Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Post by teh_klev »

julianlam wrote: post #2

In this age where the trend is JAM stack, it is refreshing to see that something battle-tested like WordPress was chosen. There's a reason WP has withstood the test of time. (WordPress developers being a dime a dozen also help make the case)

JAM stack ? The first letter I guess is Javascript?

Re: Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Post by lemonberry »

steviedotboston wrote: post #3

> Political affiliations aside, I think we can all breathe a bit easier today knowing they didn’t choose Drupal. Strongly disagree. Drupal is a great CMS and there's a reason the government uses it so extensively.

I haven't used Drupal since Drupal 7, but I really liked the Fields API. Drupal felt like it had more built in that WP should have built in but didn't. I believe Drupal 8 went with a templating language as well. That's something else I wish WordPress would adopt.

Re: Whitehouse.gov Chooses WordPress, Again

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Post by pmarreck »

westoque wrote: post #4

I hope we again see the value of using systems like Wordpress for it’s simplicity in getting a blog/website setup and easily modify content. Lately most of the modern marketing websites I see is built using gatsby and next.js. Having been talking to different content/marketing teams, they hate it so much because of the complexity it brings. Editing content? Sign in to this headless CRM app, want a form? Go sign in to…

Have you ever tried to customize or add functionality to Wordpress? Because if it’s anything like Drupal or other PHP based tech of a certain era, it’s hell
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