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Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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Re: Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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They should totally invent a new port. USB-C is just too standard.

Lightning was released in 2012. It’ll be nine years old in September.

USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems.

Remember all the noise when they dropped the 32-pin connector for the much better Lightning?

I’d like a wireless charging solution and no cable.

Of course, I’d also like a global standard that plugs into the wall.

USB-A into the wall and USB-C into the device?

Re: Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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post #2

They should totally invent a new port. USB-C is just too standard.

“USB-C” and “standard” don’t belong in the same sentence - I’m dreading the day when I have the “dp alt mode” discussion with my 76 year old mother.

Lightning was a breath of fresh air in the days of the USB 3.0 Micro-B SuperSpeed plug.

Re: Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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They should totally invent a new port. USB-C is just too standard.

Lightning was released in 2012. It’ll be nine years old in September. USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems. Remember all the noise when they dropped the 32-pin connector for the much better Lightning? I’d like a wireless charging solution and no cable. Of course, I’d also like a global standard that plugs into the wall. USB-A into the wall and USB-C into the de…

USB-C has almost entirely replaced USB-micro B on mid-high end phones.

The other end of the cable is much harder to replace; there's so much stuff with a USB-A that going USB-C on that side doesn't seem worth it, unless you're deep into Apple.

It would be very unApple, but they could keep a lightning port on one side, and add a USB-C port on the other and kill the lightning port later. Maybe not entirely unApple, they did go through a transition from firewire to usb on iPods with models supporting both for some time.

Re: Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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post #4
post #2

They should totally invent a new port. USB-C is just too standard.

Lightning was released in 2012. It’ll be nine years old in September. USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems. Remember all the noise when they dropped the 32-pin connector for the much better Lightning? I’d like a wireless charging solution and no cable. Of course, I’d also like a global standard that plugs into the wall. USB-A into the wall and USB-C into the de…

> USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems.

USB-C adoption has been pretty steady and it's on many devices of various form factors. Apple put USB-C on MacBook in 2015. The Samsung Galaxy S8 came out in 2017 with USB-C. Even my uninterruptible power supply has a USB-C port.

What problems has the standard had, in your estimation?

Re: Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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post #2

They should totally invent a new port. USB-C is just too standard.

“USB-C” and “standard” don’t belong in the same sentence - I’m dreading the day when I have the “dp alt mode” discussion with my 76 year old mother. Lightning was a breath of fresh air in the days of the USB 3.0 Micro-B SuperSpeed plug.

> I’m dreading the day when I have the “dp alt mode” discussion with my 76 year old mother

TB3 is built on native DP, so you probably won't ever need to have that conversation with her.

Re: Apple dropping Lightning port would create 'unprecedented amount of e-waste'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lightning was released in 2012. It’ll be nine years old in September. USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems. Remember all the noise when they dropped the 32-pin connector for the much better Lightning? I’d like a wireless charging solution and no cable. Of course, I’d also like a global standard that plugs into the wall. USB-A into the wall and USB-C into the de…

> USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems. USB-C adoption has been pretty steady and it's on many devices of various form factors. Apple put USB-C on MacBook in 2015. The Samsung Galaxy S8 came out in 2017 with USB-C. Even my uninterruptible power supply has a USB-C port. What problems has the standard had, in your estimation?

The problems are well documented

https://www.howtogeek.com/353410/3-problems-with-usb-c-you-n...

https://www.dignited.com/28249/usb-c-top-5-issues-usb-c-conn...

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