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Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

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Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#31

How to download an offline copy of your Facebook data: https://www.facebook.com/help/212802592074644

It would be interesting to see how this process works for someone whose account has been disabled. Clearly Facebook won't want manual requests.

Any European users could make 2 requests - one for access to their data, and one to exercise their right to data portability.

Most companies don't have a great process for the latter, many don't have anything for it.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#32

They saved you the work of deleting the account yourself. Say thanks and move on with your life =)

This seems overly glib. Facebook’s monopoly status means it’s necessary for many people. As per the post, if this person were a small business owner, or simply not well-connected elsewhere, this could be both financially and personally devastating. As it is, he’s only protected because he has other access to business and personal pages. One company shouldn’t have this sort of arbitrary power over people’s lives.

I find the idea of Facebook being "necessary" for anyone quite spectacularly laughable. This isn't, air or water. You can live without it, and many people happily do. Facebook is about as essential as essential oils.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems overly glib. Facebook’s monopoly status means it’s necessary for many people. As per the post, if this person were a small business owner, or simply not well-connected elsewhere, this could be both financially and personally devastating. As it is, he’s only protected because he has other access to business and personal pages. One company shouldn’t have this sort of arbitrary power over people’s lives.

I find the idea of Facebook being "necessary" for anyone quite spectacularly laughable. This isn't, air or water. You can live without it, and many people happily do. Facebook is about as essential as essential oils.

Phones, like food and water, are considered "essential" by the US government and provided for free to citizens who can't afford them. The definition of "essential" grows every year. AFAICT you need a FB account to apply for a job at FB and to look up some business' address.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#34

I think FB has a fundamental issue here, which is that: 1) they don't feel they can NOT police content 2) they are wayyyyy too big to police content manually 3) any AI they train to police content, is not going to be able to state clearly why a given post/account was banned, and anyway... 4) if you state objective, clear rules that are automated, it will be pretty easy to game them (e.g. using euphemisms or code word…

3 and 4 are easy - have a manual review of automatically flagged content. You get clear reasons, better resolution of false positives, and it’s not simple to game. And, in another plus, it can feed back into the AI training.

> 3 and 4 are easy

But 2 (scale) makes this solution to 3 and 4 expensive / impractical.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the idea of Facebook being "necessary" for anyone quite spectacularly laughable. This isn't, air or water. You can live without it, and many people happily do. Facebook is about as essential as essential oils.

Phones, like food and water, are considered "essential" by the US government and provided for free to citizens who can't afford them. The definition of "essential" grows every year. AFAICT you need a FB account to apply for a job at FB and to look up some business' address.

FB is not a phone, it's a website that you don't have to visit.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#36

They saved you the work of deleting the account yourself. Say thanks and move on with your life =)

What if you have an Oculus account linked to your FB account? Suddenly you lose all your purchases (I'm very glad that here in Germany sales of the Oculus were suspended over this practice).

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#37

They saved you the work of deleting the account yourself. Say thanks and move on with your life =)

This seems overly glib. Facebook’s monopoly status means it’s necessary for many people. As per the post, if this person were a small business owner, or simply not well-connected elsewhere, this could be both financially and personally devastating. As it is, he’s only protected because he has other access to business and personal pages. One company shouldn’t have this sort of arbitrary power over people’s lives.

I haven't used anything Facebook-owned for years and haven't noticed any difference in my life. Never used WhatsApp, never used Instagram, and deleted my Facebook account years ago.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#38
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phones, like food and water, are considered "essential" by the US government and provided for free to citizens who can't afford them. The definition of "essential" grows every year. AFAICT you need a FB account to apply for a job at FB and to look up some business' address.

FB is not a phone, it's a website that you don't have to visit.

A website containing the only copy in the world of a lot of information that Facebook has no real right to monopolise.

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#39
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems overly glib. Facebook’s monopoly status means it’s necessary for many people. As per the post, if this person were a small business owner, or simply not well-connected elsewhere, this could be both financially and personally devastating. As it is, he’s only protected because he has other access to business and personal pages. One company shouldn’t have this sort of arbitrary power over people’s lives.

I find the idea of Facebook being "necessary" for anyone quite spectacularly laughable. This isn't, air or water. You can live without it, and many people happily do. Facebook is about as essential as essential oils.

Facebook is used as an identity provider. Are users allowed to continue that service when their accounts are disabled?

Re: Facebook Disabled My Account After I Criticized Them

#40

I wonder if, I'm next after making https://nomorefacebook.xyz but that's why it's good to export contacts and other data now and not when it's too late. And don't use it as login provider.

I clicked through to "nomoregoogle" and holy cow I'm amazed by https://www.deepl.com/translator. Switched my bookmarks and linux search actions immediately. Thank you.

PS I made https://www.quitfacebook.org, so it seems we've got something in common :)

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