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Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by gus_massa »

Geminidog wrote: post #96
torginus wrote: post #88

My takeaway is both programmers and serial killers look like regular people (and have some unflattering photos). The bias that you can tell killers apart by what they look like is created by the media, who probably choose sinister-looking photos when reporting on murderers.

I got 8/10 which says otherwise. I voted serial killer for both women just because of how unlikely it is for a female to invent a programming language. If it wasn't for that I would be basically 90% correct. This means statistically that there likely is a difference. I can't put my finger on what it was though, I just knew. Basically anybody who looked insane must be an inventor of a programming language and anyone w…

The probability to get 8/10 choosing randomly with equal probability is 4.4%. This has 241 points now, so if we assume that the number of people that took the test and has an account to write a comment is similar to the amount of people that upvoted, we get 10.6 with 8/10. I prefer to round it to 10, because there are too many approximations.

So it's not unexpected to get a few person that got 8/10, even if it were a topic anyone knows nothing about.

(With a similar calculation we get 2.5 persons with 9/10 and .2 with 10/10.)

(From other posts informal statistics, there are like x100 visits for each upvote, but I guess more of them don't have an account or don't want to make a comment.)

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by salamanderman »

Geminidog wrote: post #96
torginus wrote: post #88

My takeaway is both programmers and serial killers look like regular people (and have some unflattering photos). The bias that you can tell killers apart by what they look like is created by the media, who probably choose sinister-looking photos when reporting on murderers.

I got 8/10 which says otherwise. I voted serial killer for both women just because of how unlikely it is for a female to invent a programming language. If it wasn't for that I would be basically 90% correct. This means statistically that there likely is a difference. I can't put my finger on what it was though, I just knew. Basically anybody who looked insane must be an inventor of a programming language and anyone w…

I assume you were trying to describe how you did well using statistics and demographics, but your wording comes off sexist. It hits my ear as bragging about the disparity in the field, and I have to consciously try to change my initial interpretation to allow for something different. I also got an 8/10, but I had at least one woman in my set who was a language developer (one of the Cobol designers) and I got that right too. I went with the intensity in the eyes. By my method, I most certainly would have marked Steve Jobs as a serial killer, so it's not perfect, although in his biography he said he learned his trademark expression from a guy he knew who later started a cult.

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by raunakdag »

undefined1 wrote: post #119
ummwhat wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women are also highly unlikely to be serial killers. I don't know which is more unlikely.

Camille Paglia (feminist academic, professor) has written and lectured about why that is. She has a famous line: "There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper."

I really don’t understand this. Is she saying that women tend to be less bold, outgoing, risk-taking? I’m a bit confused.

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by undefined1 »

raunakdag wrote: post #123
undefined1 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Camille Paglia (feminist academic, professor) has written and lectured about why that is. She has a famous line: "There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper."

I really don’t understand this. Is she saying that women tend to be less bold, outgoing, risk-taking? I’m a bit confused.

Basically that men tend to be more obsessive and more likely to occupy the extremes.

Here's a lecture where she explains in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=243&v=HrscwJYO8G8

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by Geminidog »

salamanderman wrote: post #122
Geminidog wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got 8/10 which says otherwise. I voted serial killer for both women just because of how unlikely it is for a female to invent a programming language. If it wasn't for that I would be basically 90% correct. This means statistically that there likely is a difference. I can't put my finger on what it was though, I just knew. Basically anybody who looked insane must be an inventor of a programming language and anyone w…

I assume you were trying to describe how you did well using statistics and demographics, but your wording comes off sexist. It hits my ear as bragging about the disparity in the field, and I have to consciously try to change my initial interpretation to allow for something different. I also got an 8/10, but I had at least one woman in my set who was a language developer (one of the Cobol designers) and I got that rig…

I said something akin to men are unlikely to be nurses, so I didn't choose men.

I think the ideological rhetoric of feminism has infected the viewpoints of normal people so much so that one needs to tiptoe around something that is obviously true. This may be good from a social standpoint as it opens up equality of opportunity but it is bad for science. The movement has silenced people who point out inevitable differences in observation. Women are different then men and giving them equal opportunities will yield unequal outcomes based simply off of actual biological differences in behavior and physical stature. Such censorship is bad for science.

I stated an observation between sexes that is completely obvious and avoided even entertaining the reasoning behind why such observations are true because I don't know why they're true. Yet it still hit your ideological nerve, no doubt due in big part to the tenets spread by ideological feminists. I support equality but not equality to the point where it denies reality.

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by Geminidog »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #111
Geminidog wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got 8/10 which says otherwise. I voted serial killer for both women just because of how unlikely it is for a female to invent a programming language. If it wasn't for that I would be basically 90% correct. This means statistically that there likely is a difference. I can't put my finger on what it was though, I just knew. Basically anybody who looked insane must be an inventor of a programming language and anyone w…

it's also statistically unlikely for females to be serial killers as well.

Hmmm, didn't know this, thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by Geminidog »

ummwhat wrote: post #102
Geminidog wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got 8/10 which says otherwise. I voted serial killer for both women just because of how unlikely it is for a female to invent a programming language. If it wasn't for that I would be basically 90% correct. This means statistically that there likely is a difference. I can't put my finger on what it was though, I just knew. Basically anybody who looked insane must be an inventor of a programming language and anyone w…

Women are also highly unlikely to be serial killers. I don't know which is more unlikely.

That's new information to me. Thanks for pointing it out, it might have changed my selection process for the women.

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by eyelidlessness »

adwn wrote: post #74
eyelidlessness wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m glad this comment got undead so I could upvote

When you click on a comment's timestamp, you can "vouch" for it, thereby raising it from the dead.

I had no idea! This site has too many weird hidden features

Re: Programming Language Creator or Serial Killer?

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Post by Geminidog »

undefined1 wrote: post #119
ummwhat wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women are also highly unlikely to be serial killers. I don't know which is more unlikely.

Camille Paglia (feminist academic, professor) has written and lectured about why that is. She has a famous line: "There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper."

People need to balance there weaknesses with strengths. Just because one demographic is weak at something doesn't mean they're strong in another.

While intuitively I agree that what Camile Pagila says makes sense, there is no definitive evidence that was causes men to more likely be serial killers is what causes men to more likely be geniuses. Scientifically we still need to entertain the possibility that women aren't geniuses because of biology and this has nothing to do with the fact that they're unlikely to be serial killers. It might be true it might not be true, don't let ideology or pride in your own race/sex blind you from the truth.

Case in point, white people are more likely to be serial killers than other races. You may automatically think a racial centered biological origin of serial killer behavior is absurd but again this is the irrational need for "balance" and equality that is throwing you off. There is no scientific evidence either way, it could be Caucasian in origin it could not be.

Behaviorally we should be ideologically neutral for different demographics, but for observations of reality and discussing truth we should be scientifically neutral.

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