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FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

#31
"Access denied"? (UK)

Anyway, we're now going to see what happens when the huge post-Patriot act homeland security machinery is turned on people who thought they were untouchable, and all of a sudden a lot of powers that everyone was OK being used against nebulous "enemies" are going to end up in the news.

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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post #15

>"And they can actually pinpoint on Google Maps exactly where you were standing. Like, he knew where I was standing on the sidewalk, like specifically, based on my cell phone ping." You don't get that level of granularity by merely triangulating cell tower pings. Sounds like they got GPS location data from people's Google accounts.

5G significantly increases granularity by a metric shit ton, and if they were continually pinging in the same area, eventually you end up with roughly one zone.

Who the hell has a 5G device?

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

#33
Forensic methods used by police and intelligence go much deeper than just looking at phones near the crime scene.

1. They look at phones moving towards the crime scene and going dark when getting close. This is also how you can detect secret meetings between people. They move towards the same area and shut down their phones.

2. They look at suspect phone going dark anywhere around the time of the incident.

3. Leaving a phone at home that is not answering calls or creating traffic during the time of interest is also a lead (if you already have a suspect).

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

#34
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that was an actual insurrection or attempted assassination, it was the weakest effort imaginable. That doesn’t necessarily change the thrust of your comment (that enforcement is appropriate) but the breathless hyperbole around what happened has really surprised me. An actual insurrection would have looked very different. More guns and C4, fewer selfies.

"More guns" is right. I watched it live and then dug through the videos, selfies, etc after and inside the Capitol, I found one guy who might have had a gun. The other weapons appear to have been convenient - a fire extinguisher, flags, etc. It looks less and less like an "insurrection" and more like jackasses doing jackass things.

Luckily, you're not a police investigator, because you can't be more wrong. All manner of weapons were confiscated - guns, ammo, explosives, crossbows, brass knuckles, etc. These were people who came to kill.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35214244/cap...

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Insane? The capitol was assaulted in order to prevent the democratically elected president. An actual insurrection which maybe had some attempted assassination and theft/sale of national security secrets mixed in. Seems like a pretty reasonable response.

If that was an actual insurrection or attempted assassination, it was the weakest effort imaginable. That doesn’t necessarily change the thrust of your comment (that enforcement is appropriate) but the breathless hyperbole around what happened has really surprised me. An actual insurrection would have looked very different. More guns and C4, fewer selfies.

> More guns and C4, fewer selfies.

It's not like there weren't homemade explosives found on the site:

> Coffman, 70, told police he had mason jars filled with "melted Styrofoam and gasoline." Federal investigators believe that combination, if exploded, would have the effect of napalm "insofar as it causes the flammable liquid to better stick to objects that it hits upon detonation," according to the court record. [0]

[0] https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots...

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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post #32
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5G significantly increases granularity by a metric shit ton, and if they were continually pinging in the same area, eventually you end up with roughly one zone.

Who the hell has a 5G device?

Alot of people buy new Iphones.

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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post #32
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5G significantly increases granularity by a metric shit ton, and if they were continually pinging in the same area, eventually you end up with roughly one zone.

Who the hell has a 5G device?

Is this....a serious question? All new iPhones are 5G compatible for the start and they sell millions, and loads of other manufacturers have released 5G compatible phones. In fact I'd risk a guess that if you bought a phone in the last 12 months it's likely to be a 5G compatible phone.

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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post #32
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5G significantly increases granularity by a metric shit ton, and if they were continually pinging in the same area, eventually you end up with roughly one zone.

Who the hell has a 5G device?

I’m guessing people who flew into DC on a weekday are more likely than average to own a decent smartphone. QAnon folk don’t seem to avoid mainstream technology in the quantity HN users do.

Re: FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

#40
This is cool! Good job on the FBI.

Remember it's a good thing to have phones be pinging.

1. I want to be billed correctly

2. If my service drops often in a certain geo, I want engineers to be able to pinpoint exactly where the problem is and fix it.

3. If I get attacked by a shark, I want to provide breadcrumbs for rescuers to find me.

4. If my wife accuses me of going to the arcade, it is important that my dog running in the park with my cell phone in his harness is being properly tracked and creating an alibi for me.

If you don't want to leave a trail of geo pings, don't carry around a device that literally could not work if it didn't leave a trail of pings.

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