Any intelligent and sufficiently motivated individual could bypass airport security with a weapon. Why does it exist?
Oh really? How would you do it?
TSA Threatens To Cancel All Flights Out Of Texas If ‘Groping Bill’ Passed
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#32Either the Constitution gets enforced or not. If the Constitution is to be enforced then the Supremacy Clause AND the 4th amendment need to adhered to. That means warrants for all searches.
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#33At the end of the day the people with all the power are too apathetic to wield it. The State doesn't want the airport shut-down, that's bad for business. It would cause all kinds of problems even if they were closed for a relatively short period of time. Dallas is of course a hub, so the impact on travelers would go _far_ beyond the Texan borders. The airlines (especially those with hubs in Texas) are quaking in thei…
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#34Even the politics are theater. Texas backed down the moment they were threatened. Who the heck gave the TSA so much power? They cannot even be defunded. Meanwhile congress voted themselves special exemptions to bypass the TSA searches, so they don't even care what happens.
Who the heck gave the TSA so much power? It's not that the TSA has that much power, it's where their power is derived from. The TSA is a federal authority, and all federal laws supercede state and local laws, per the Constitution ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause ).
This sounds very similar to federal drug laws and now the new healthcare mandate. States are growing tired of being told what to do, especially when a majority of their populace disagrees with specific law. Not long ago many states passed amendments re-asserting their rights as states.
I think this would have been a great time for a large influential state to take a stand, but instead they backed down. I can still hope that CA will step up and do more than passively ignoring federal drug laws, and instead make drugs legal and throw out the DEA.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who the heck gave the TSA so much power? It's not that the TSA has that much power, it's where their power is derived from. The TSA is a federal authority, and all federal laws supercede state and local laws, per the Constitution ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause ).
This sounds very similar to federal drug laws and now the new healthcare mandate. States are growing tired of being told what to do, especially when a majority of their populace disagrees with specific law. Not long ago many states passed amendments re-asserting their rights as states. I think this would have been a great time for a large influential state to take a stand, but instead they backed down. I can still ho…
Maybe I'm just too much a cynic, but any time I see a state trying to buck a federal law, I picture a special interest who thought their money would go further purchasing favor with legislative officials at the state level rather than the federal.
Not that I disagree with you too much about this particular battle... Just that cynicism shining through my attempt to quelch it.
Re: TSA Threatens To Cancel All Flights Out Of Texas If ‘Groping Bill’ Passed
#36The american people could never easily spot totalitarian acts by the government. The 'destruction of personal rights' is all over the country and all over multiple areas of life. It's time for everyone to make a stand, not just Texas.
Contrary to your view, I think this is how reasonably democratic societies deal with privacy and personal rights: through politics, not bloodshed. Your suggestion, taken literally, is a call to revolution which would directly result in a drastic reduction in many people's practical rights, including the right to not be dead.
Not revolution, but indignation. make your voices be heard by everyone. Make the politicians see that the people are not blind anymore, that they cannot simply run over the people's rights.
It is not about revolution but about re-enforcing basic rights and freedom, like getting into an airplane without automatically be assumed a terrorist, and without hands touching every inch of your body.
The stand that needs to be made is with voice and action, not blood. If suddenly everyone follows Texas' example (or maybe find out a more effective way of punching the TSA on the face) things would change. It's all about who has the strongest influence, and in a democracy, it is always the people.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
This sounds very similar to federal drug laws and now the new healthcare mandate. States are growing tired of being told what to do, especially when a majority of their populace disagrees with specific law. Not long ago many states passed amendments re-asserting their rights as states. I think this would have been a great time for a large influential state to take a stand, but instead they backed down. I can still ho…
Maybe I'm just too much a cynic, but any time I see a state trying to buck a federal law, I picture a special interest who thought their money would go further purchasing favor with legislative officials at the state level rather than the federal. Not that I disagree with you too much about this particular battle... Just that cynicism shining through my attempt to quelch it.
Actually, I think matwood brought up an excellent point about California. Their laws on marijuana are the only example I'm aware of where the state very clearly made laws that contradicted federal laws, and the federal authorities have just let it slide. If the federal government wanted to, they could make an issue out it. But they have not.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who the heck gave the TSA so much power? It's not that the TSA has that much power, it's where their power is derived from. The TSA is a federal authority, and all federal laws supercede state and local laws, per the Constitution ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause ).
I still don't think the TSA can suspend all flights out of Texas just 'cause.
Probably flights on public carriers. I'm guessing some sort of shift to a private charter configuration would be one way to bypass TSA security. But I'm just guessing.
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#39The commenter "seeker" asks the question: "Since when can the TSA cancel flights in airports that they neither own or manage? Last I checked, most of the large Texas airports were owned and managed by cities in which they reside." Who does own these airports? I think the TSA is bluffing implying that they can directly cancel flights, but they certainly have the power to deny anyone past security such that there are n…
Well, since the TSA aren't law enforcement, they can't legally detain anyone - they rely on the police (local / state) for enforcement. Technically, Texas could have their officers refuse to detain those the TSA refused to clear.
At that point, the feds would need to step in with either the FBI or Federal Marshalls to prevent fliers from boarding planes.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe I'm just too much a cynic, but any time I see a state trying to buck a federal law, I picture a special interest who thought their money would go further purchasing favor with legislative officials at the state level rather than the federal. Not that I disagree with you too much about this particular battle... Just that cynicism shining through my attempt to quelch it.
Actually, I think matwood brought up an excellent point about California. Their laws on marijuana are the only example I'm aware of where the state very clearly made laws that contradicted federal laws, and the federal authorities have just let it slide. If the federal government wanted to, they could make an issue out it. But they have not.
Don't the feds routinely still bust people in CA?