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Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
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Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
I strongly disagree. Government control should be as minimal as possible, otherwise it helps a pitfall of potential tyranny. The people need to "vote" by using platforms that they respect the governance of. If they don't like how/who the leadership of Facebook is moderating, they should go to another platform; there does need to be better data and network portability laws/policy, so users are mobile and can leave any…
Any sufficiently-dominant corporation is indistinguishable from a government.
Then perhaps we should address these too big corporations issues. It appears, if no big social media corporation existed, and instead there were a bunch of smaller players, we could argue that the customers will make a good decision.
Perhaps, the government should be involved into it (in form of perhaps adjusting anti-trust laws)?
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#323Cyberpunk 2021
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think the future will be so dystopian? In Western countries such as the United States citizens have a high level of political participation and awareness of various issues. If the government attempts to unilaterally throttle the Internet there will be such a large uproar that our political leaders will be overturned on the next election. Plus, the newly voted-in Democratic leadership has a policy of ad…
Plus, the newly voted-in Democratic leadership has a policy of advocating for the freedom of the web. Biden is pro-MPAA/RIAA.
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#325How is this not foreign political interference? The UK media has been preaching to us about dangers of Russian election interference for years at this point, but simultaneously they seem completely unconcerned that a handful of wealthy Americans how the power to censor popular media outlets, entire political movements and political activists at a whim. The SWP is massive. I don't know for sure, but I suspect they had…
Uh trump was kicked off Twitter a week ago.
The bans of non fringe, left leaning libertarian liberals have been getting kicked off Twitter for months labeled alt right for having such scary ideas like they should be allowed to use the words they choose.
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook is a private company and can do whatever they want.
Sounds good, until the next bail out comes and private companies and their investors has to be saved.
So true, but next bailout? The bailout is continuous so long as the Fed keeps rates near zero, delaying the inevitable adjustments to asset prices and allowing large hedge funds with access to these extremely low rates to gobble up even more with little worry about the downside. Current Stock market is a primary example of this.
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is the incentive structure anti-left? I suppose suspending Trump's account qualifies as "anti-left" these days. Zuckerberg openly stating he supported Black Lives Matter? Anti-left. Facebook deleting PragerU content for "hate speech" before getting reprimaneded? Anti-left. Zuckerberg personally assisting Pete Buttigieg around primary season? ANTI LEFT, I SAY! DIDN'T YOU HEAR HE SAT AT A DINNER TABLE WITH CONSERVA…
The grandparent's example is a poor indicator of the political leaning of Facebook's executive team. VP of U.S. Public Policy is a euphemism for Head Lobbyist and now that the Democrats control both the Presidency and Congress, I would not be surprised if the current guy is fired and replaced with someone with deep ties to the Democrat party.
That's a great point.
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a little worried in a few years it will only be safe to put up recipes and tell people happy birthday on social media, everything else will be too controversial
Sorry, "Happy Birthday" is an imperialist imposition of western cultural values. It also mocks the elderly. Such micro-aggressions are no longer permitted on our platform. You have been "fact-checked" and given your first and last warning and a temporary ban of 90 days.
Recipes are also guilty of cultural appropriation...
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#329How is this not foreign political interference? The UK media has been preaching to us about dangers of Russian election interference for years at this point, but simultaneously they seem completely unconcerned that a handful of wealthy Americans how the power to censor popular media outlets, entire political movements and political activists at a whim. The SWP is massive. I don't know for sure, but I suspect they had…
>How is this not foreign political interference? America doesn't "interfere" in elections, it gently persuades people to follow the true democratic path. Truthfully, it is nothing more than American exceptionalism. Even as our nation spent years outraged over Russian interference, we continued both private and public interference in elections worldwide.
> Even as our nation spent years outraged over Russian interference
Only a minority of the country was (supposedly) outraged about the mostly non-existent Russian interference.
Most of the US knew it was bullshit the entire time, the Russians had near zero impact on the prior election (amazing how they didn't somehow swing this latest election, given their apparent god-like powers, despite how close it was). Trump's vast popularity showed up again in this latest election, they couldn't even try to hide it behind fake Russian interference. It was nothing more than a politcal ruse, a frame to hold Trump in, which the media almost universally played along with (and simultaneously they won't tag Biden as being controlled by China despite Biden having far closer ties to China than Trump does to Russia). It's the exact same thing they did to Tulsi Gabbard when she dared to go against their agenda. We're all owned by the all-powerful, magical Russians if we go off the acceptable message.
Re: Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you sure that you have an accurate assessment of how bad things are currently vs how bad they would become in a world where access to the Internet was strictly controlled by governments and anonymous/pseudonymous communications were forbidden? Don't you think that the risks in the second scenario are in a different category to the risks in the first one? While being sent to Facebook Jail could limit your social l…
This is a contrived fantasy, or a realistic question? We have a system of justice, you get to defend youself, judged by your peers and posting general BS about politics is not a crime. Youtube, on the other hand, will ban your channel without any recourse, so if you are earning a living from it, you kids might be on the street because something in a mysteruous machine learning algorithm got triggered.
Read the comments that I was responding to, if it's not clear to you. The GP described this scenario as being realistic, and the parent comment said that this seemed preferable to Big Tech acting without extensive regulation.
> We have a system of justice ...
That's irrelevant here, and there are probably far more people who are likely to lose their livelihoods if they post unpopular stuff about politics under their real name. I think that political content creators on YouTube supporting their family through money from their advertising program are an extreme edge-case, and they can always move to a new platform, whereas people in the former category would risk their non-political day-jobs and this would have a broader chilling effect across society at large.
And tell me how the solution to this problem could possibly be to give the government access to and control over the internet activity of every member of the population? What kind of dystopian nightmare would we be trying to create? Do you think that access to this level and breadth of data is likely to make future governments more or less authoritarian? Do you think it might attract more authoritarian figures into politics? Of course governments can surveil people currently, but in relatively limited numbers or with the cooperation of service providers, but I can't imagine people seriously thinking that this would be a good idea, or maybe they haven't thought through its practical implications.