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Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Post by TingPing »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #53
albertzeyer wrote: post #11

Adium ( https://adium.im/ ) used to be the MacOSX native version (port) of Pidgin. It seems they still recommend it. However, Adium seems kind of dead? Last commit ( https://github.com/adium/adium/ ) was in 2016. I build a MacOSX app bundle for the original Pidgin long time ago ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-macosx/ ). At that point in time, this was not so trivial, as the GTK support for native MacOSX was…

GTK on macOS is completely fine, unless newer versions of GTK have borked it. We use GTK2 for Ardour (cross platform DAW) and there are almost no issues. I did contribute numerous important patches for the quartz backend along the way.

GTK3 is slightly better than GTK2 on macOS and GTK4 is getting a lot better with a paid developer working on it.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Post by lproven »

aidenn0 wrote: post #204
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #175

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Nigh all of the protocols have incomplete support. I purely use it as a chat client and avoid most of the more complicated features, since I don't use them.

Yeah, that's why I asked, because if you use only 1 chat protocol, a dedicated client is almost always better (now that ICQ and AIM are dead). Pidgin really shines if you need to aggregate multiple protocols in a single client.

> now that ICQ and AIM are dead

ICQ is alive and well, and has native clients for most modern OSes.

https://icq.com/

It got bought out and spun off when AOL were shutting down.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Post by freeAgent »

tmpxgdqrcKFuG wrote: post #109
jdlyga wrote: post #49

Does nobody remember Pidgin? It was one of the first things a lot of people installed on their machines 15 years ago along with Firefox. We used it as an alternative client to AOL Instant Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. It used to be called GAIM.

I miss Adium Trillian used to be like Pidgin and Adium on Windows but then they went and made its own IM service.

I believe Trillian still continued to support other networks (as long as they could) after introducing "Astra" or whatever they called their own chat network. Most of them have died off over time or locked out 3rd party clients (AIM, Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc.).

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Post by Delk »

crooked-v wrote: post #306
thesuitonym wrote: post #302

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Okay but people who aren't mechanics, but drive, still know how to do things like turn the car on, and understand that if they turn the steering wheel right, the wheels point to the right. They understand that the car needs gas, even if they don't really know why it needs gas. People who don't know how to use computers treat them like a magic box that may or may not do what they want to, if they use the right magical…

> that may or may not do what they want to Computers inexplicably don't do what you want them to do all the time, though. Modern cars, by contrast, are incredibly reliable even with extremely insufficient maintenance.

Cars are also much simpler tools than computers in terms of the variety of things people want to do with them.

Car analogies applied to computing tend not to be very good, at least partially for that reason.

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Post by ALittleLight »

teawrecks wrote: post #152
superkuh wrote: post #141

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Kids can't use computers. http://www.coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-co...

"She reevaluated her categorisation of me. Rather than being some faceless, keyboard tapping, socially inept, sexually inexperienced network monkey, she now saw me as a colleague. To people like her, technicians are a necessary annoyance. She'd be quite happy to ignore them all, joke about them behind their backs and snigger at them to their faces, but she knows that when she can't display her PowerPoint on the IWB s…

There has got to be a better way to provide feedback or criticism than just insults like this. Imagine that someone who identifies with what was written reads what you wrote, how would they feel? How would that contribute to constructive discussion? I think it would be more likely to promote flamewars, bad feelings, and general conversational degeneracy.

I think a better comment would isolate what you think is wrong and explain why you think so. Ideally, I think that could be done without referencing the frequency with which people you disagree with have sex.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Post by lillecarl »

wruza wrote: post #107
ehsankia wrote: post #64

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I still have my .purple backup. It even had a Steam plugin I recall which was great since Steam itself didn't have chat logs.

If anyone is curious why it is called .purple, here you go: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/WhatIsLibpurple

I didn't get that info from there

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Post by chipx86 »

albertzeyer wrote: post #11

Adium ( https://adium.im/ ) used to be the MacOSX native version (port) of Pidgin. It seems they still recommend it. However, Adium seems kind of dead? Last commit ( https://github.com/adium/adium/ ) was in 2016. I build a MacOSX app bundle for the original Pidgin long time ago ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-macosx/ ). At that point in time, this was not so trivial, as the GTK support for native MacOSX was…

I worked on Pidgin (Gaim, at the time), and was the original author of libpurple (now libgaim). Adium was a sister project that was originally completely different, but utilized some of our Protocol Plugins (aka prpls — basis for the name "libpurple"). It later utilized libgaim when it reached a certain level of maturity.

I don't know whether Adium eventually moved fully onto libgaim. I seem to recall it only used it selectively, but I stopped working on those projects years ago.

Been very happy to Pidgin's maintenance resume. Gary Kramlich's been doing a fantastic job reviving it, and I'm hoping the same will be done for Adium in time. We really need a modern multi-chat/IM client for the modern era.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Post by chipx86 »

thesuitonym wrote: post #304
ayewo wrote: post #292

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Pidgin was an excellent IM tool particularly on Linux desktops, but there were numerous times when I'm at someone else's computer and a web-based IM client like Meebo came in handy. http://meebo.com/

Pretty sure meebo was built on top of libpurple, so even when you went to someone else's PC, you were still using Pidgin!

It was.
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