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Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Oh damn, Pidgin. I LOVED that app. 15 years ago I had ONE messaging app that logged me into MSN, ICQ, QQ, Zephyr, Gtalk, Yahoo, AIM, Facebook, and Renren. On that one messaging app I had either written or downloaded plugins for: * End-to-end encryption (receiver needed the plugin as well) * Automatic two-way human language translation via online translation APIs so I could have a conversation with someone who didn't…

Pidgin was an excellent IM tool particularly on Linux desktops, but there were numerous times when I'm at someone else's computer and a web-based IM client like Meebo came in handy. http://meebo.com/

Of course Google killed it, meebo was great and way ahead of it's time back then.

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Kids can't use computers. http://www.coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-co...

a completely different story: when steam engines were replaced with the otto motor and cars became available to the general population, people were able to repair and understand the engines themselves. they had an understanding of mechanical principles. a few generations later, and only car nerds understand cars. everyone else has to go to a mechanic to understand why their car's engine won't start or why it sounds s…

Okay but people who aren't mechanics, but drive, still know how to do things like turn the car on, and understand that if they turn the steering wheel right, the wheels point to the right. They understand that the car needs gas, even if they don't really know why it needs gas.

People who don't know how to use computers treat them like a magic box that may or may not do what they want to, if they use the right magical incantation.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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a completely different story: when steam engines were replaced with the otto motor and cars became available to the general population, people were able to repair and understand the engines themselves. they had an understanding of mechanical principles. a few generations later, and only car nerds understand cars. everyone else has to go to a mechanic to understand why their car's engine won't start or why it sounds s…

> when a technology becomes convenient enough so we don't have to think about it while it fulfills it's purpose, Is a tragically limited view of what computers are. Programmable computers are fundamentally different from steam engines. A steam engine will never be anything except a steam engine. Most of the manufactured objects we encounter in everyday life are similar: single- (or occasionally multi-) purpose goods…

On the contrary, the analogy is very good. The steam engine represents power. Power can be used for a limitless number of applications. The steam engine is the CPU. You input energy (pressure/electricity) and extract work (mechanical/computational).

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Oh damn, Pidgin. I LOVED that app. 15 years ago I had ONE messaging app that logged me into MSN, ICQ, QQ, Zephyr, Gtalk, Yahoo, AIM, Facebook, and Renren. On that one messaging app I had either written or downloaded plugins for: * End-to-end encryption (receiver needed the plugin as well) * Automatic two-way human language translation via online translation APIs so I could have a conversation with someone who didn't…

Pidgin was an excellent IM tool particularly on Linux desktops, but there were numerous times when I'm at someone else's computer and a web-based IM client like Meebo came in handy. http://meebo.com/

Pretty sure meebo was built on top of libpurple, so even when you went to someone else's PC, you were still using Pidgin!

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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XMPP , Discord , Skype , and Matrix .

Using Pidgin for Discord is probably a bad idea unless the Pidgin plugin has Discord's blessing. They ban for using third-party clients.

Nothing of value would be lost.

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a completely different story: when steam engines were replaced with the otto motor and cars became available to the general population, people were able to repair and understand the engines themselves. they had an understanding of mechanical principles. a few generations later, and only car nerds understand cars. everyone else has to go to a mechanic to understand why their car's engine won't start or why it sounds s…

Okay but people who aren't mechanics, but drive, still know how to do things like turn the car on, and understand that if they turn the steering wheel right, the wheels point to the right. They understand that the car needs gas, even if they don't really know why it needs gas. People who don't know how to use computers treat them like a magic box that may or may not do what they want to, if they use the right magical…

> that may or may not do what they want to

Computers inexplicably don't do what you want them to do all the time, though. Modern cars, by contrast, are incredibly reliable even with extremely insufficient maintenance.

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The good old time, when Google used XMPP..

Does it not still do so? I'm fairly certain that I'm using Pidgin 's XMPP functionality to communicate with others that are receiving their end in Google Hangouts .

Yes and no.

- Google used to support XMPP federation, and they pulled the plug on that years ago.

- Any new features introduced as part of Hangouts haven't been backported to XMPP, and so there may be random breakage when XMPP users talk to Hangouts users.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Does nobody remember Pidgin? It was one of the first things a lot of people installed on their machines 15 years ago along with Firefox. We used it as an alternative client to AOL Instant Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. It used to be called GAIM.

Don't forget the numerous add-ons, skins if I remember correctly end-to-end encryption was just a PGP add-on away and you're right pidgin was one of the first things I installed on Linux machines and it's clone Adium for Mac OSX[1]. Sadly I don't do real-time communication anymore and even if I do I don't think any of my pidgin/adium (XMPP) contacts still use them. [1] https://adium.im/

I didn't even know Pidgin had skins. The big attraction for me was that I didn't have to pick an obnoxious skin like Trillian. It just used whatever your system theme was, and the default GTK skin looked like it belonged in Windows XP.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I still have my .purple backup. It even had a Steam plugin I recall which was great since Steam itself didn't have chat logs.

If anyone is curious why it is called .purple, here you go: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/WhatIsLibpurple

That doesn't really answer why it's called purple. As I recall, there used to be something about it being named for the PRogram PLugins (prpl) that (then) Gaim used.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Considering this is open source (which I'm assuming includes the plugins), wouldn't this be a much better alternative to the native apps on mobile? Curious as to why this hasn't been ported to Android/iOS. I'd much prefer this over apps that need permission to my blood type to function. Pidgin was great back in the day for convenience, but there is a legitimate argument to be made for privacy here too. EDIT: It just…

Have you seen the latest review of the Librem 5 from Linus Tech Tips? The phone seems to run Linux apps fine... it doesn’t have working camera drivers a year after release though... https://youtu.be/BH8DRyKUZDg So Pidgin (gaim for those of us old enough to remember those days) should run fine without a port.

Hell, I still don't have my damn order and I placed it in Oct. 2017. Their last post said early orders would be completed by EOY, but my last email to support they said another two months.

I want to be supportive but holy hell am I frustrated.

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