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Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Everyone I know stopped using AIM over a decade ago and by even 5 years ago Google Chat and everything else emptied out in favor of iMessage, Whatsapp, Signal etc...

AIM shut down more than three years ago.

Google made it pretty easy to migrate to chat/hangouts, too, by adding AIM integration.

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Windows and Mac have had solutions to this for years. You can encrypt user files using their OS login, so they don't have to decrypt every time they start the app.

What does this gain over just encrypting the drive/backups? Anything running on the system has the same access. If the drive is not encrypted, surely for Windows at least it's possible to reverse engineer the encryption secret. Maybe on Mac you could do something with T2, but now your config is not portable, and still doesn't solve the malware on the system case or the "your sibling/visitor/housemate whoever has phys…

In a multi-user system using DPAPI [1] on windows protects secrets from other users, even if the disk is not encrypted. Secrets are encrypted with the user's password.

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20200830203837/https://docs.micr...

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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But smartphone is a computer, personal computer with telephony hardware. And Android is Linux with different userspace, mainline Linux can boot quite a lot of smartphones. Terminology is so wrong.

There is a general purpose computer under there but most people don't interact with it like that. The fact that it can does not mean that it will. A lot of this has to do with the ecosystem and how a device is presented and what the UX is like. Manufacturers increasingly want to lock things down and hide them away. I agree that this trend should be fought.

> There is a general purpose computer under there but most people don't interact with it like that.

The same could be said about 90% of laptops and desktops purchased for home use. How many people actually use "computers" for tasks they couldn't do on a phone or tablet if those devices had larger screens and keyboard support.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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What chat protocol do you use it with?

XMPP , Discord , Skype , and Matrix .

Using Pidgin for Discord is probably a bad idea unless the Pidgin plugin has Discord's blessing. They ban for using third-party clients.

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What about the precursor to Google talk? You know, chat integrated into Gmail before it was branded Google Talk. I thought it was Google Chat.

It was released as a standalone app in 2006 (after having a labs beta period prior) as Google Talk, and integrated into Gmail in 2007. While the widget in Gmail (which was only removed very recently to replace it with a Meet widget!) was labelled Chats, the service itself never was.

I think they're actually referring to Google Hangouts Chat

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Does nobody remember Pidgin? It was one of the first things a lot of people installed on their machines 15 years ago along with Firefox. We used it as an alternative client to AOL Instant Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. It used to be called GAIM.

There were also Miranda [0] and Trillian back in the day. Trillian is still around but it has changed a lot.

[0]: https://sourceforge.net/projects/miranda/

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I would suggest they never knew how to use computers. Computers are general purpose devices, which is lost on the general population who only ever need to check emails and post on social media. Smart phones fit this perfectly. Let's leave the general computing devices for people who actually need that power, just like the early days.

Oh yes, let’s leave power to those who know the best, they will make what is right for everybody. History heavily confirm this pattern.

amusing how it is nearly always someone in the in-group making this decision, that everyone else does not need or deserve access to something but i do as a member of this group. tale as old as plato “discovering” the ideal form of government was a bunch of philosophers telling everyone else what to do.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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You assumed pretty much everyone used a desktop specific chat app that is 20 years old?

i mean, I'm typing this message from Firefox which has pretty much a direct lineage to Netscape (1994), on an OS from 1991, using an instruction set which mostly comes from the 1970s

That's really not a great comparison, especially since browser-based social media and browser-based chat services (e.g. Facebook and its chat) are what killed services like AOL/ICQ, before later moving into mobile apps. Pigdin was fairly niche even back in the early 2000s. Facebook is bigger than any of those services ever were, because Facebook did a way better job or attracting the average person. My family used email before Facebook, for example.

Given all those things with hindsight, it makes perfect sense for browsers to have long lineages and it makes perfect sense why standalone chat services mostly died out.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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There is a trick to using Pidgin in Termux, it is not userfriendly but it runs.

$ pkg search finch Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done finch/stable 2.14.1 arm Text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client

finch-static/stable 2.14.1 arm Static libraries for finch

$

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