Technology problems are usually just human problems behind a mask. In this case, the real problem was a poorly skilled team with bad leadership, and React just exacerbated the problems by giving the team enough rope to hang itself.
React created roadblocks in our enterprise app
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Re: React created roadblocks in our enterprise app
#12This very misleading. Looks like .NET and OOP dinosaurs are the real culprit in your project.
Re: React created roadblocks in our enterprise app
#13This mirrors my own experience with React. The core library itself is fine, and I love the way it bridges functional paradigms without forcing a ton of functional vocabulary on the team, but the ecosystem is a mess. And, because the React core is so minimal, eventually you need to interact with that ecosystem. JS dependency hell is real, and it's worse with React than any other framework that I've worked with.
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#14You just got steamrolled by .NET OOP dinosaurs, React played no part in it.
This is also my understanding. Like most Enterprise projects front-end is the one to blame for problems that are actually in the backend.
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#15Technology problems are usually just human problems behind a mask. In this case, the real problem was a poorly skilled team with bad leadership, and React just exacerbated the problems by giving the team enough rope to hang itself.
100% this. The moment you allowed the .NET devs to bring their mindset into a fundamentally different space you were going in the wrong direction.
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#16AngularJS was indeed a bit of a pain when we switched to Angular 2+ and beyond, but it was so worth it. I chose it because of the skillset that our current (small) team has. There's no way our 'designer' (more an HTML/CSS guy) could have wrapped his head around JSX, the way it mixes scripts with layout markup. The way Angular separates concerns for us is great. And the components are extremely flexible and reactive a…
Oof. I work on an angular app and the build is slow as molasses because it's big. And we of course don't want to move away from the official build tool because build time improvements are always "right around the corner".
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#17I don't agree that React is not enterprise ready. The mistake OP made was reaching for Redux for some weird reason. Redux-saga, _thunks_? I guarantee this project used thunks of some kind because some blogger posted about it and it was popular and trendy. Pick boring tech that's objectively simple and not an exercise in genius. mobx, today: apollo-client (if you have a graphql api). I've never seen any other project…
> I've never seen any other project stain a framework as much as Redux has done.
Is there a good article that would summarize the backlash against Redux?
While I don't do front-end much anymore, Redux was such a productive tool for me when I was a contractor. I found it incredibly powerful and easy to work with, if cerebral for the uninitiated.
Meanwhile, I had the exact opposite experience with apollo-client and the apollo framework—very easy to get up and running, but a giant pita for doing anything complex.
Re: React created roadblocks in our enterprise app
#18AngularJS was indeed a bit of a pain when we switched to Angular 2+ and beyond, but it was so worth it. I chose it because of the skillset that our current (small) team has. There's no way our 'designer' (more an HTML/CSS guy) could have wrapped his head around JSX, the way it mixes scripts with layout markup. The way Angular separates concerns for us is great. And the components are extremely flexible and reactive a…
JSX always seemed like a red flag to me. It was redesigning something that already exists to make it so that it uses non native browser functionality? Also the portability looked like an issue from it.
I don't understand the use case for it. Vue and apparently Angular use basic browser friendly components.
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#19I'm think I'm not able to read this story without paying. Medium seems like they are becoming increasingly a pay to read only service.
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#20Technology problems are usually just human problems behind a mask. In this case, the real problem was a poorly skilled team with bad leadership, and React just exacerbated the problems by giving the team enough rope to hang itself.
Have to agree with this.