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Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

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Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

#11

OK I love this, but I am pretty sure my chances of getting a mac in the future are zero. From which side should I expect the PC response? Intel? AMD? Microsoft? ARM? Samsung? I think Apple willingly or not has just obliterated the whole consumer pc market.

And Apple will court (allow) developers until competition shows up. Then they will shut it down and obfuscate. The fact that Apple refuses to provide FOSS drivers themselves indicates this.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

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[*Sure I get it, it's not interesting to talk meta about whether a post is interesting. I'm already downvoted off the planet. Fine.] I'm sure it's a good blog post for the right reader, but for something to land on HN front page, I generally look for either: 1) a story that, while specialized, reveals something accessibly technical and interesting to a semi-expert crowd, or 2) explains something at a sufficient level…

...well, this is Hacker News, after all.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

#14

OK I love this, but I am pretty sure my chances of getting a mac in the future are zero. From which side should I expect the PC response? Intel? AMD? Microsoft? ARM? Samsung? I think Apple willingly or not has just obliterated the whole consumer pc market.

I'd be excited to see arm competition in the desktop space but I don't believe there are any arm chips that compete in performance to high end x86. Arm can do lots of cores which is very good for servers, but single threading performance is still a significant necessity on user end hardware.

The M1 is great because it's low power with optimized performance, but on a desktop you can have well over 500W+ and that's normal.

I don't see anyone else making only mobile arm chips for laptops other than trying to be like a Windows Chromebook. The software compatability will be a nightmare.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

#15

OK I love this, but I am pretty sure my chances of getting a mac in the future are zero. From which side should I expect the PC response? Intel? AMD? Microsoft? ARM? Samsung? I think Apple willingly or not has just obliterated the whole consumer pc market.

I'd be excited to see arm competition in the desktop space but I don't believe there are any arm chips that compete in performance to high end x86. Arm can do lots of cores which is very good for servers, but single threading performance is still a significant necessity on user end hardware. The M1 is great because it's low power with optimized performance, but on a desktop you can have well over 500W+ and that's nor…

M1 cores outperform Comet Lake cores and are basically tied with AMD Vermeer despite using a fraction of the power.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

#16

OK I love this, but I am pretty sure my chances of getting a mac in the future are zero. From which side should I expect the PC response? Intel? AMD? Microsoft? ARM? Samsung? I think Apple willingly or not has just obliterated the whole consumer pc market.

I'd be excited to see arm competition in the desktop space but I don't believe there are any arm chips that compete in performance to high end x86. Arm can do lots of cores which is very good for servers, but single threading performance is still a significant necessity on user end hardware. The M1 is great because it's low power with optimized performance, but on a desktop you can have well over 500W+ and that's nor…

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Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

#17

OK I love this, but I am pretty sure my chances of getting a mac in the future are zero. From which side should I expect the PC response? Intel? AMD? Microsoft? ARM? Samsung? I think Apple willingly or not has just obliterated the whole consumer pc market.

The response from Intel seems to be betting on the Evo platform [1], with third parties announcing laptops like the XPG Xenia XE

1 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/evo.ht...

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Ryzen mobile processors should be interesting. Their GPU drivers (while not of the best code quality) are in the mainline Linux kernel. So it all should just “work”

Currently using a Renoir laptop. It's smoking fast but I had to install a bleeding edge kernel to get the display driver to work at all. That should be fixed in the next ubuntu release though.

Weird, I had no issues with the built in display on Ubuntu 20.04, but I had to update the kernel to 5.8 to get display out over USB-C to work. Now that Ubuntu 20.10 is out and uses 5.8, I'm just using that so I don't have to mess with custom, unsigned kernels.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, Part II

#20

OK I love this, but I am pretty sure my chances of getting a mac in the future are zero. From which side should I expect the PC response? Intel? AMD? Microsoft? ARM? Samsung? I think Apple willingly or not has just obliterated the whole consumer pc market.

The response from Intel seems to be betting on the Evo platform [1], with third parties announcing laptops like the XPG Xenia XE 1 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/evo.ht...

That looks more like ultrabooks but not watered down again - I'm not impressed.
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