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Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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Sadly, the article completely fails to mention the amazingly useful innovations made by tiling window managers like wmii, ion3 and xmonad.

Granted, they're not as new as Unity et al, but they offer a compelling, complete and fairly radical departure from tradition, and one that I really do miss on OS X.

Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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I don't know about others, but the reason I love desktop Linux is because of it's modularity. I can use Gnome, KDE or whatever other applications with whatever window manager I choose, and it all works. In an era where everything is being dumbed down for the lowest common denominator, I'm just glad that there is one environment where power users can flourish.

Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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post #4

I think it's really awesome that Linux is finally taking the lead with innovation on the desktop — Gnome-Shell and Unity are just the beginning. And, they are not "catch-up": they are released both before and with more interesting changes than Lion or (what we've seen of) Windows 8. However, what Cupertino and Redmond are up to isn't "nothing", it's just not the desktop. The Windows Phone "Metro" UI is downright amaz…

I own both a Galaxy S II (Android 2.3) and an iPhone 3GS. IMHO, Android has the lead on the user interface.

Reuse of components and events provided by other apps is at the heart of Android, the system notifications are better, it has desktop widgets that are actually useful, keyboard interaction for writing text is better (I love copy/pasting or moving the text-cursor around on my Android) and you can use the back-button everywhere (just as on the web).

The only problem with Android is that many apps available in Google's Market are really shitty. Skype itself, which works fine on the iPhone, will bleed my battery dry in only 3-4 hours, with that same battery being able to last for 3 days with 3G + email-sync enabled.

If they get the market story straight, I'm sorry for the contestants, but Android is a competition killer.

Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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post #8

Mobile is where innovation happens today and Linux has almost no presence on mobile devices (except all major mobile OS using linux/freebsd kernel). It's a stagnation, not innovation.

seriously? What do you think Android is - and its not just the kernel. I have a working userspace on my phone. In fact, when I have spotty connectivity, the first thing I do is fire up the terminal and do a ping/traceroute. Gnome != Linux.

Linux isn't just its kernel, by Linux we usually mean some distribution with most utilities readily available in packages. I can't buy a mobile device in the shop and install working Linux distribution without hacks, it feels wrong.

Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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post #3

Here is the discussion from /r/linux on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hhpku/linux_the_sourc... The top comment there pretty much nails it.

Agreed - I certainly don't see anything that I'd call 'innovation', and there is nothing on any open source desktop that would send me off to my friends and relatives houses to switch them from OS X or Windows.

Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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Sadly, the article completely fails to mention the amazingly useful innovations made by tiling window managers like wmii, ion3 and xmonad. Granted, they're not as new as Unity et al, but they offer a compelling, complete and fairly radical departure from tradition, and one that I really do miss on OS X.

Windows 1 used tiled windows (MS programmers didn't learn how to overlap windows until Windows 2) and Emacs has them since the 70's. I am not sure if tiling windows could be called innovation.

Re: Linux: The Source of All Desktop Innovation

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Spaces' aren't new They aren't new but they've been fairly common in Linux desktop environments since the 90's while OS X didn't introduce them until 2007. I'm not sure where they first appeared but at the very least they've certainly become a common idea because of Linux.

The 80s. Originally out of PARC. Also, while Project Looking Glass (Sun) may have borrowed some stuff from Quartz, Apple borrowed a lot of UI stuff from Project Looking Glass

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