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Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by sradman »

snoshy wrote: post #408
sradman wrote: post #203

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I think Intel SIMD (AVX-512) is still best-of-class for vector math. Run Length Encoded algorithms in column stores like SAP HANA are currently the key use-case (revenue/market wise). What I've learned since the release of Apple M1 is that ISA extensions for Matrix math, as incorporated in Apple's AMX, complement the Vector-centric SIMD ISA and are probably a key battle front for ML/DL. A good Vector/Matrix SIMD-like…

What you're talking about here is the client/inference side, not the server/training side of the ML/DL compute battle. The former is meaningful in a sense, but practically insignificant in relation to the latter. Almost all ML/DL compute GPU, CPU, or otherwise is on the server side of the equation, and if you're relying on vector CPU math for it, well good luck. Accelerators have a very clear space for themselves on…

Wayne Gretzky: "I skate to where the puck is going, not where it has been.”

Intel Acquires Artificial Intelligence Chipmaker Habana Labs [1]:

> Intel estimates the total addressable market (TAM) for AI silicon by 2024 will be greater than $25 billion, and within that, AI silicon in the data center is expected to be greater than $10 billion in the same timeframe.

Amazon EC2 instances powered by Habana Gaudi [2]:

> Up to 40% better price performance for deep learning models

Matrix CPU math is another plausible future; Intel, AMD, and/or ARM are positioned to drive such an ISA extension. Accelerators, coprocessors, FPGAs, and CPU ISA extensions all seem to be in play; it is too early to pick winners in this nascent market.

[1] https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-ai-acquisitio...

[2] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/habana-gaudi/

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by nottorp »

jariel wrote: post #350
oceanghost wrote: post #92

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I can assure you you're an outlier (but delightfully so). I worked once for a company where I was doing a product for the iPad. I literally, could not get the company to buy the newest iPad for us to test on. The only iPad we had for development had a bad sensor and would throw errors constantly. One day, marketing brings me 12 new iPads because-- they want me to install a beta of the app on them, because they're goi…

This has many shades of potential pettiness. First, it has nothing to do with MBAs. And of course we don't really know how budgets are allocated? That they might have just bought their iPads as part of the purchase cycle whereas 'Eng guy' already had one, and 'the sensor' wasn't enough to justify a new one? And that everything customer-facing has to be relatively new? And that 'the trip' they were on has nothing to d…

Actually, if you do software development for a mobile device you need at least one recent working sample of said mobile device to test on. Emulators are a joke.

If he's complaining about a bad sensor it means that sensor was hindering his testing, otherwise he wouldn't have even noticed.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by xyzelement »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #321
spicybright wrote: post #207

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I genuinely feel bad for talented people that get suckered into deals like this. Obviously some do if recruiters try and do this.

Being slightly underpaid is a great lifehack, but only if your bosses know it. Less stress, more work/life balance. Let people work themselves to the bone for 30% more money. That isn't for me.

Really?

If nothing else, making 30% more and saving it would allow you to retire 30 percent earlier. Is half assed slacking for 10+ extra years really that good a proposition when instead you can actually crush it now and then be fully free?

Also, to be honest I've never seen the "he's underpaid so we expect less" dynamic in management. What I see much more often is "this guy is bad, not quite so bad that we can fire him but almost. We can't justify raising his comp so let's give him shit work that others would rather not do." Maybe your situation is as you say but seems odd.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by culopatin »

Goosee wrote: post #238
whymauri wrote: post #229

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It's incredible to me how often recruiters will shoot themselves in the foot when discussing WLB. When I was an undergrad, I had a lot of management consultancies reach out for technical/engineering roles. I thought - hey, there's a reason why people want to work at Bain, BCG, and McKinsey, right? So I spoke to a recruiter and opened with: so what's the work life balance look like for technical ICs at your company? T…

Yeah, I noticed the people who went into consulting at my school always posting snapchats of them working well past dinner time and back in the office the following morning at 7 AM. At least the recruiters you spoke with were upfront about expectations. Do you know if there was WLB as one got into a more senior role and climbed the corporate ladder there? This past summer I did some contracting work, putting in 80+ h…

Are you in the US?

“They piled on work” > I’m not complaining Health was shit > But I have no problem working more than 40hs.

I hear this constantly in the US. Observing the overworked state one is in, but throwing a “no but I’m still good eh, don’t get me wrong” after to back pedal it a bit. Almost as if everyone was guilty, or if they had to show they are also as strong as the next guy working 60hs.

I work at a place where people feel like they will be fired if they work less than 50h/week when they are exempt even if they could finish the work in 36hs.

I notice this is embedded in the American work culture. Feeling sorry for not working more than the amount of time they are being paid for.

Working from home and going back to the computer after hours because idk.

I’m not sure if it’s not having anything else to do and getting anxious, hating the life at home, wanting to show they are “so exhausted”, pride, or what, but we need to start thinking differently if we want to be healthier together.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by ccmonnett »

i_am_proteus wrote: post #417
yaboy wrote: post #53

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I worked at a startup that was acquired by an unsexy behemoth. It was not covered in TechCrunch. We had a sales guy who easily cleared over $1MM in salary and bonuses, several times the CEO and founders, because he went above and beyond, closing $15MM of new business a year. When the MBA consultants and salespeople from the acquirer found out, they couldn’t believe he made that much — all while they personally manage…

Stories like this make The Organization Man by W. H. Whyte[0] seem prescient. And never forget Pournelle's iron law: >Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people": >First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers and launch t…

You sound like someone who has read Systemantics/The Systems Bible by John Gall? If not, you are likely to enjoy it.

For anyone else reading, I enjoyed it tremendously and highly recommend it. It's a very fun book to read.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by heyoni »

imtringued wrote: post #442
ryanmercer wrote: post #432

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Shoot, the $45 an hour mentioned up this chain would be life changing for me (yes, I live in the U.S.), after 15 years at my job I make 17.26 an hour. It's why this talk of $15 minimum wage mildly terrifies me, I know people need it but man, it suddenly thrusts me nearly to minimum wage (minimum wage is currently 7.25 here).

The problem with minimum wages is that they don't do anything. There is a mild psychological effect that forces people below minimum wage to find a new job. However, if the economy doesn't have enough jobs above minimum wage, then it does nothing. If the government offered jobs at the minimum wage there would be an effective price floor for wages. Better yet, if those government workers spend their income they can dr…

And if there are enough jobs, then it does something, and does it well. It forces companies to spend a bit more on their employees and in some ways, redistributes wealth.

Your solution isn’t better. The government cannot be everywhere the way that Walmart is.

I really don’t think its impact is going to be that big. Low skilled labor will still find ways to get hired for less, off the books if the need is great enough...it happens all the time.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by skeletal88 »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #288
spicybright wrote: post #207

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I genuinely feel bad for talented people that get suckered into deals like this. Obviously some do if recruiters try and do this.

I think talented people will not take it unless they're between a rock and a hard place. Sadly what this does is it attracts only the most junior or unqualified hires who (are great if you got time/budget but if not) will need to be trained by the few seniors left holding the place together. I'm not surprised Intel does this and the telecommunications side I have seen from them in Europe was rotten to the core. I hav…

Yeah, don't understand the story. He got poached from intel, or by intel? Where was he let go from? You need to.. maybe edit the story a bit.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by tharne »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #9

This is an encouraging move. My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company. I've been part of a similar downhill slide at a smaller company in the billion dollar revenue range. To be blunt, once the [mediocre] MBAs start realizing that the engineers are getting paid more…

> To be blunt, once the [mediocre] MBAs start realizing that the engineers are getting paid more than they are, the pressure to reduce engineering compensation is strong.

I work in a different industry, but it's the same story everywhere. MBAs are the worst thing to ever happen to American business. We've created an entire class of people with large egos and expensive credentials who don't actually know anything practical, and we've put them in charge.

We've come up with this weird idea that you can abstract running a business away from the nuances of a particular business and industry, but that's completely untrue. Business are not these clean theoretical constructs you see in business school or an economics class, they're real, they're messing, and it's not always crystal clear why a particular business works or doesn't work.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by hombre_fatal »

xyzelement wrote: post #463
phendrenad2 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being slightly underpaid is a great lifehack, but only if your bosses know it. Less stress, more work/life balance. Let people work themselves to the bone for 30% more money. That isn't for me.

Really? If nothing else, making 30% more and saving it would allow you to retire 30 percent earlier. Is half assed slacking for 10+ extra years really that good a proposition when instead you can actually crush it now and then be fully free? Also, to be honest I've never seen the "he's underpaid so we expect less" dynamic in management. What I see much more often is "this guy is bad, not quite so bad that we can fire…

You'd be right if we aged like Benjamin Button.

But you're glossing over the downsides of trading your youth away for a hopeful payoff at a later date. Not all of us like that bargain.

I make a fraction of what people in this thread are saying they make. But what price do you put on being 30 and single on a beach in Mexico, happy, with a low stress job? You could look at it as if I paid half my salary to buy back my time.

We all value things differently, but notice that it's your youngest self that's most eager to bargain your youth away.

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