DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

Post by CyberRabbi » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 10:31 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #113

CyberRabbi wrote: post #47

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I agree, they must be punished for their violent extremist seditionist views. They are a threat to our society. It’s called the “paradox of tolerance” the intolerant do not deserve rights because they have labeled themselves as intolerant.

Please stop posting ideological flamewar comments to HN. You've been doing it repeatedly, it's not what this site is for, and we ban accounts that do it, regardless of what they're battling for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (Totally unrelated: if you want us to rename your account we can do that for you. It's easiest if you email hn@ycombinator.com. I'm just adding this here because I noticed you…

Post by cthalupa » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 11:17 AM UTC

aww_dang wrote: post #257

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It’s called reductio ad absurdum. Absolute free speech would have to include ISIS, a group that would (and has) killed people for what they say. If you admit that absolute free speech leads to illogical and impractical consequences, then the only remaining question is where to draw the line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

I'll agree that the comparison to ISIS is absurd.

Post by pelliphant » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 11:32 AM UTC

aww_dang wrote: post #209

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+1. I must admit I find it a bit rich that people are raising free speech issues around this situation. I find myself wondering where these people were in 2014 when all the major social media platforms systematically removed ISIS accounts and content from their systems. I don't recall anyone lamenting that move and the chilling effects it had on free speech. In fact, iirc the response was quite the opposite.

Is it possible to use a more extreme generalization than ISIS? On one hand you had ISIS posting beheading videos. On the other you had grandmas posting selfies in the rotunda. Yeah, there are some nutters out there. But to claim that everyone caught up in the tech purges is somehow equivalent to ISIS seems a bit rich from my perspective. Even if you accept that some of these people are genuine domestic terrorists, re…

Post by amanaplanacanal » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 11:50 AM UTC

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #254

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Probably, yeah. This sort of fraud is pretty common. Sometimes it's caught when the IP space is used to send spam or host obviously illegal content (spam landing pages, botnet C&C, CP, drugs, etc), sometimes it's caught in other ways, like when a shady DDoS protection outfit uses it to host a high-profile web site.

> a shady DDoS protection outfit Shady because they're Russians? Or shady because they're using a shell-company to achieve their goals?

Post by BrianOnHN » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:10 PM UTC

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #237

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> The paradox of tolerance applies here: You can't extend tolerance to those who advocate for intolerance without destroying tolerance in the process. I don't understand how this is a paradox. You can't extend tolerance to people who commit arson and murder, or e.g. refuse to hire black people because they're black. You can let people say whatever they want, because then you can refute their arguments and refuse to i…

Paradox of Tolerance is a hypocrisy. If you are shutting down someone's ability to communicate because you don't like what they are saying, you are not tolerant.