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Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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> instant torque that an electric vehicle puts out just shreds a gearbox Doesn't the Porsche Taycan have 2 gears? and it actually beats Tesla Model S in 0-60 times

Plaid S is due this year to take back the crown. Curious if it adds a gear or just bigger motors.

Model model S (okay, any dual motor version) have different gearing on the front and rear wheels, so that more power can be sent to the front as speeds increase.

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> They could even do a stickshift EV if they wanted to, though most car companies seem to not think it's worth the complexity/maintenance, and I get the impression that electric motors are hard on transmissions. Electric motors have a wider power band, so there’s less need for gear shifting. They could get more efficiency with multiple gears, but it’s be a smaller benefit than in an ICE vehicle. One of the big early…

> instant torque that an electric vehicle puts out just shreds a gearbox Doesn't the Porsche Taycan have 2 gears? and it actually beats Tesla Model S in 0-60 times

Roadster is due out this year with a 1.9s 0-60 (and an 8.9s quarter mile).

Can anyone here lend me a quarter million please?

Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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There is a car exactly like this....in China. It's used for driver training, and I suspect it will start being popular elsewhere. In all of EU if you pass your licence on an automatic(which nearly all electric cars are) you can't drive a manual, you have to pass your licence in a manual car. And that's why that car was created, to allow people to pass their test in a manual vehicle and have a licence that allows driv…

Part of me wants to create a fake gearbox and clutch kit for an automatic car that does absolutely nothing, but looks convincing to driving examiners. You can just change "gears" when you feel like it without any actual effect and the clutch is just a dumb pedal.

> and the clutch is just a dumb pedal

Thus completely negating training on a manual?

Learning how to effectively use the clutch pedal to me was like, 90% of learning to drive.

Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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TBH I’m surprised Musk hasn’t bought them out yet and “released” a limited edition Model 3 with a DeLorian body kit for like $500,000... if Cyan can release a Volvo P1800 for 500K and you usually need to provide the 50 year old P1800 for them to convert and tune there clearly is a market for these things.

If Tesla just made a sedan version of the Cybertruck, it would look just like a DeLorean.

The model X doors just scream "delorean" more than any other Tesla feature, in my mind.

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TIL that Tesla Tequila is an actual thing, and it's somehow even more ridiculous than Tres Comas.

Tesla Tequila is a spoof off of Tres Comas (was priced at $250, limit two, as an alleged nod to their imminent inclusion in the S&P500), and honestly it’s pretty good tequila for a marketing spoof.

Can you use the Tesla Tequila as fuel in the Tesla flamethrower?

Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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There is a car exactly like this....in China. It's used for driver training, and I suspect it will start being popular elsewhere. In all of EU if you pass your licence on an automatic(which nearly all electric cars are) you can't drive a manual, you have to pass your licence in a manual car. And that's why that car was created, to allow people to pass their test in a manual vehicle and have a licence that allows driv…

Part of me wants to create a fake gearbox and clutch kit for an automatic car that does absolutely nothing, but looks convincing to driving examiners. You can just change "gears" when you feel like it without any actual effect and the clutch is just a dumb pedal.

Accelerating to a highway would be a dead giveaway to an examiner. Those who learn to use the clutch well enough in the mandatory 20 hours to do it as smooth as automatic gear are few and far between. And obviously they are the ones who wouldn't need to fake it anyway.

Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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There’s a huge opportunity for the manufacturer that could streamline an hypothetical chassis with integrated electronics and batteries. We could be looking for a future resembling what we have today in some formula categories that are basically a power unit paired with a dallara or lolla chassis.

Lots of EV manufacturers are investigating the "skateboard" model where you drop a chassis on a unified battery platform. VW has invested monumental amounts in this but I imagine will keep it all locked down to the VAG family. Perhaps they're open to licensing opportunities. Canoo ($GOEV) on the other hand is in the news for their skateboard platform being adopted by Hyundai/Kia and potentially being the base of the…

What are the biggest cost centers and differentiators for EVs? I have heard that a big reason why traditional automobile manufacturers are behind is because they don't have the software foundation that Tesla does. I imagine the "skateboard" integrates software, electronics, batteries and motors in a single platform, but will that be enough to counter Tesla's competitive advantage, while being able to differentiate the product enough from other folks using the same platform?

I wonder if an Android like fragmentation of the market makes sense here - a company like Google developing and maintaining the software, another customizing it to fit inside custom hardware.

Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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post #168

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Electric motors have maximum torque from 0 RPM, which removes most of the need for a transmission. Think of it as a transmission being a patch for a limitation in a combustion engine. If you were switching from electric to ICE, you’d need to invent this patch.

And yet... for whatever torque the motor supplies at 0 RPM, you could have 4 times as much torque with a 4:1 1st gear. As I see it, a manual stick EV would be pretty good in combination with a modestly-powerful drive system like what's in the Nissan Leaf, as opposed to something like a high-end Tesla (where you have enough power that shifting gears doesn't matter as much).

There's no need. We're very much EV-only since 2014, am yet to drive one that is underpowered in any practical driving circumstances.

Re: DeLorean considering all-electric reboot

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There is a car exactly like this....in China. It's used for driver training, and I suspect it will start being popular elsewhere. In all of EU if you pass your licence on an automatic(which nearly all electric cars are) you can't drive a manual, you have to pass your licence in a manual car. And that's why that car was created, to allow people to pass their test in a manual vehicle and have a licence that allows driv…

Part of me wants to create a fake gearbox and clutch kit for an automatic car that does absolutely nothing, but looks convincing to driving examiners. You can just change "gears" when you feel like it without any actual effect and the clutch is just a dumb pedal.

At least here in Poland you can only take the exam in the car provided by the testing centre, you can't have the exam in your own car(with some exceptions like when you need to have a car adjusted to your disabilities)
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