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Re: Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down

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Here's the denial of the TRO: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qhXD-4Kaw5dCEBv0dUM8buygEKg... Parler hasn't lost the case, just a TRO that demands reinstatement on AWS, but the ruling on the TRO requires the judge to tip their hand about the case, and Parler is going to lose. I don't think you even need to read the AWS AUP to know that Parler has no real case here. To buy Parler's contract claim, you'd have to believ…

Parler will win in discovery that AWS allowed far more content on Twitter etc without breaching contract - and that staff worked overtime to remove everything AWS had issue with. This was 100% about protecting the Twitter advertising revenue stream to AWS.

Twitter is not hosted in AWS. They just signed the contract, the content hasn’t moved yet.

Re: Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down

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Here's the denial of the TRO: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qhXD-4Kaw5dCEBv0dUM8buygEKg... Parler hasn't lost the case, just a TRO that demands reinstatement on AWS, but the ruling on the TRO requires the judge to tip their hand about the case, and Parler is going to lose. I don't think you even need to read the AWS AUP to know that Parler has no real case here. To buy Parler's contract claim, you'd have to believ…

Amazon did not give Parler time to remedy the issue, which was in the contract. And is now trying to blur the line between a suspension and termination. Robert Barnes, on the Parler lawsuit https://youtu.be/pAFZw7fGY4A Viva Frey, a lawyer did a breakdown on the lawsuit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFp5E7akgy8 Robert Barnes, On section 230, and the tech lawsuits https://youtu.be/rD-Zb0nTJw0 Their take on it is tha…

I'm not going to bother watching Youtube videos on this, because the authority I'm citing here is the judge who wrote the ruling in the TRO, citing the AWS contracts that show Amazon was not under the circumstances required to give Parler notice.

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> The US is not a direct democracy, it is a representative republic. I'm aware of that. And that structure favors one side more than another. This is not a controversial statement - the numbers (y'know, facts and logic) back that up. States are lines on a map. In the current setup they have more influence than the actual people living in those states. Do you seriously not see how that can lead to disproportionate rep…

> States are lines on a map. Saying this doesn't make them less important, it just shows a childish attitude. Local and State governments and representation are important parts of the Republic. Dollars are just numbers in a database. Will you give me all your money? Or is it only certain "made-up" things that are important to you? > Do you seriously not see how that can lead to disproportionate representation of some…

> Local and State governments and representation are important parts of the Republic

Why? What even is a state, if not its people? What even is a local or state government, if not the people in the city or state? Can you even have a state or a state government if there are no people in the state?

What's special about the state or state government specifically that it should get its representation separate from the people it governs? Are the state or state government's aims and objectives different from the people of the state? If so, why, and what legitimacy does it have? If not, why have it represented?

Moreover, if this was really and actually true, why was the 17th Amendment passed? Why aren't senators still chosen by state legislatures, or nominated by governors and confirmed by legislatures? Why does the state get represented twice (Senate and EC) but the people only get represented once? Isn't that an imbalance?

> Seems like a well-balanced system to me.

Because it favors your side. You'd be singing a different tune if it was the other way around.

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Parler's CEO claims were debunked by Amazon, which provided evidence that they warned Parler for months across multiple multiple violations: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/filing-amazon-wa...

Your source for "debunking" has a clear conflict of interest, no?

The source is a legal document that amazon would be guilty of perjury for falsifying.

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> I find it interesting that people think down voting my comment will intimidate me into changing the analysis. I find it interesting that you think you can read minds as what expectations downvoters have about their downvotes’ effect on your behavior. As you say, “That’s not how anything works…”

I do not possess power to read minds, nor anticipate the court's actions. I find it all, very interesting!

maybe come back when you can say anything other than "I find it interesting"

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Dems pushed the use of the USPS as a general voting system. Terrible idea. The USPS was not designed this way. Dems knew they could leverage their population dense cities to win this using USPS. To say that one side is clean and the other is corrupt is clearly incorrect. They both cheat. They both cheat a lot. The dems just cheated better this time.

You have no evidence of cheating in this election that has been accepted by any court. You have no evidence that USPS function "favored" Democrats. You are perpetuating the lies that have been told by the former president and his supporters for the last 2+ months.

You're right. The dems would never cheat.

Don't care that they did. They just cheated better this time.

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Dems pushed the use of the USPS as a general voting system. Terrible idea. The USPS was not designed this way. Dems knew they could leverage their population dense cities to win this using USPS. To say that one side is clean and the other is corrupt is clearly incorrect. They both cheat. They both cheat a lot. The dems just cheated better this time.

The Democrats wanted the USPS to deliver the mail. They also wanted people to be able to vote through the mail because we are in the middle of the worst pandemic in 100 years . This is different from treating the USPS as a general voting system. You are arguing that the Democrats cheated more than the Republicans, or "better". Do you have any evidence of this? This needs to be evidence from the past election, not Chi…

They cheated. And in several elections. Hats off.

I know they did because the motive was there and the cost too great. I have faith in all men to make the same decisions when the time comes.

Clearly there was cheating on both sides.

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> Each state gets numbers by its population. This is false, and the core of the criticism of the EC. Each state gets 2 votes independent of its population, which is biased toward small population states, and for over a century the definition of states was constrained by a compromise to protect slavery .

California has more electors than Vermont.

A hypothetical state with 3 people, if admitted to the Union, would have the same number of electors as Wyoming. Clearly sheer numbers are meaningless. And you know that, you just want to argue in bad faith.

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Parler had some pretty strict moderation enforcement against progressive views, just not against racism, death threats, and successfully planning violent insurrections against the government. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/filing-amazon-wa... Filing: Amazon warned Parler for months about “more than 100” violent threats [...] Amazon provided "more than 100 additional representative pieces of content" advo…

I addressed those claims in my last paragraph.

No, you want to dismiss evidence that was filed in a court as "just some screenshots".
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