Novichok Nerve Agent Poisoning

Presumably the folks behind this would know that he was being transferred to Germany. I wonder why they would not have prevented it through some bureaucracy? Is it common for critically ill Russians to be transferred to Germany? Just seems like something that would have to go through a lot of channels to get done, but I have no experience in healthcare.

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Post by nikivi » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 1:59 AM UTC

The things happening in Russia before the protest on Saturday is dystopian. Police take into custody anyone who is trying to promote it, schools are suddenly open and students are being scared by threats of disqualification if they go outside on that day.

I hope this dictatorship ends soon. I wouldn’t want to live in a country where nearly all your taxes get spent on building a palace and enforcing more police and military.

If anyone is curious on what’s happening, I made a Twitter list. Most tweets are in Russian though.

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1351120526220152839

Oh yeah and some russian citizens who are members of Navalny anti corruption fond are told by government to leave their own country..

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Post by kamranjon » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 2:05 AM UTC

sl1ck731 wrote: post #5

Presumably the folks behind this would know that he was being transferred to Germany. I wonder why they would not have prevented it through some bureaucracy? Is it common for critically ill Russians to be transferred to Germany? Just seems like something that would have to go through a lot of channels to get done, but I have no experience in healthcare.

If you watch Navalny's video on this he explains that they likely assumed it was out if his body after 2 days and is why he was allowed to be airlifted out.

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 2:05 AM UTC

sl1ck731 wrote: post #5

Presumably the folks behind this would know that he was being transferred to Germany. I wonder why they would not have prevented it through some bureaucracy? Is it common for critically ill Russians to be transferred to Germany? Just seems like something that would have to go through a lot of channels to get done, but I have no experience in healthcare.

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Post by Clewza313 » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 2:16 AM UTC

Bit of an aside, but it's odd how convention forces the journal to pretend the patient is anonymous ("a 44-year-old man") despite all the other details making it blatantly obviously that it's Navalny. Of course, from a strictly medical point of view the name is irrelevant, but the context does matter: for example, the chronology of exactly how & when he was poisoned is still not entirely clear.

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Post by tyingq » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 2:25 AM UTC

Polonium, Dioxin, Novichok. I wonder what they use when they want to be more stealthy about it.