AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by ke4qqq » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana
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Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by PradeetPatel » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:19 PM UTC

>Instead, new versions of the software will be offered under the Elastic License (which limits how it can be used) or the Server Side Public License (which has requirements that make it unacceptable to many in the open source community).

I'm a bit out of the loop here, can someone please tell me why Elastic decided to enact this seemingly Anti-OSS license?

Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by jawns » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:19 PM UTC

PradeetPatel wrote: post #2

>Instead, new versions of the software will be offered under the Elastic License (which limits how it can be used) or the Server Side Public License (which has requirements that make it unacceptable to many in the open source community). I'm a bit out of the loop here, can someone please tell me why Elastic decided to enact this seemingly Anti-OSS license?

The announcement: https://www.elastic.co/blog/licensing-change

The "Why" behind the change: https://www.elastic.co/blog/why-license-change-AWS

tl;dr Elastic alleges that Amazon is infringing on their trademark and is offering Elastic's products as a service on AWS without being a good partner.

From Elastic's summary of the license change: "The SSPL allows free and unrestricted use and modification, with the simple requirement that if you provide the product as a service to others, you must also publicly release any modifications as well as the source code of your management layers under SSPL."

Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by dboreham » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

PradeetPatel wrote: post #2

>Instead, new versions of the software will be offered under the Elastic License (which limits how it can be used) or the Server Side Public License (which has requirements that make it unacceptable to many in the open source community). I'm a bit out of the loop here, can someone please tell me why Elastic decided to enact this seemingly Anti-OSS license?

Because they want to make money?

Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by m00dy » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

If you are Elastic, how could you compete against AWS even if it is your own software ?

Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by crb002 » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

Elastic was suing them for trademark breach. Hosting didn't bother them - it is FOSS. Lying that they were in partnership with Elastic did.

Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by dijit » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

And I, for sure, will never use them.

The AWS version of ES has been abysmal- it’s only saving grace is that it’s “in the ecosystem”- I was convinced by an AWS zealot on my team. Never again.

Re: AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

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Post by hehehaha » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

PradeetPatel wrote: post #2

>Instead, new versions of the software will be offered under the Elastic License (which limits how it can be used) or the Server Side Public License (which has requirements that make it unacceptable to many in the open source community). I'm a bit out of the loop here, can someone please tell me why Elastic decided to enact this seemingly Anti-OSS license?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25833781