Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos • Hacker News Board

Re: Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

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Post by mansion7 » Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 9:29 PM UTC

approxim8ion wrote: post #10

mansion7 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antifa actively attempted to block media from photographing rioters, looters, and arsonists, and attacked numerous photojournalists ho refused to comply.

Yes, card carrying members of Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd. did that. It's certainly not standard protest behavior to avoid things like the parent post, or actual law enforcement violence.

It's not. Flippant responses aside, Antifa went above and beyond standard protest response in suppression of and violence toward photojournalist.

Re: Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

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Post by approxim8ion » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 3:25 AM UTC

mansion7 wrote: post #11

approxim8ion wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, card carrying members of Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd. did that. It's certainly not standard protest behavior to avoid things like the parent post, or actual law enforcement violence.

It's not. Flippant responses aside, Antifa went above and beyond standard protest response in suppression of and violence toward photojournalist.

You've already decided that, and your past comments make it very clear where you stand so I'm not going to try and change your mind.

Re: Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

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Post by mansion7 » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 5:27 AM UTC

approxim8ion wrote: post #12

mansion7 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not. Flippant responses aside, Antifa went above and beyond standard protest response in suppression of and violence toward photojournalist.

You've already decided that, and your past comments make it very clear where you stand so I'm not going to try and change your mind.

I decided it based upon reasoned perusal of available evidence, as any rational being must...

But were I undecided, your "Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd." would be unlikely to sway me, as it mocks the very idea that Antifa organizes in any cohesive fashion (when we can see on Twitter, Facebook, and other such avenues that they clearly do)

Re: Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

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Post by thread_id » Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

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Re: Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

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Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 11:46 AM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #3

I am a bit at a loss for words. > "Everybody who is participating in this violence, what really amounts to an insurrection, should be held accountable," says the site's creator, who asked for anonymity to avoid retaliation. 6,000 people didn’t storm the capital. Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists? I hope any one of the many peaceful p…

> Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists?

The site doesn’t do that, and explicitly links the source video for each face.

> I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel.

If they are the party that actually filmed it, they’d be better off suing for copyright violations (though a fair use defense may well exist), as this clearly isn’t even approximately libel.

Re: Website Published Every Face from Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

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Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 11:51 AM UTC

aedanman wrote: post #7

zaroth wrote: post #3

I am a bit at a loss for words. > "Everybody who is participating in this violence, what really amounts to an insurrection, should be held accountable," says the site's creator, who asked for anonymity to avoid retaliation. 6,000 people didn’t storm the capital. Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists? I hope any one of the many peaceful p…

The problem with publicly posting their photos is it completely negates any fair justice. There is no trial. They are already presented as guilty. Then who defines how they should be held accountable? The general public? That is not how justice works.

> The problem with publicly posting their photos is it completely negates any fair justice.

Both private and government posting of pictures (or drawings from descriptions) of people suspected to be involved in or of interest related to a crime, without any kind of prior judicial process or clearance, is routine, not punishment, and doesn’t alter the role of process required for punishment. It does not “negate fair justice”. Nor are they “presented as guilty” on this site, even in the sense that people might be said to be “presented as guilty” when featured in a wanted poster.

> Then who defines how they should be held accountable?

A court, as usual. The page ask for rioters identified by the combination of still face photo and linked video to be reported to the FBI, and provide the FBI’s tip link.