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Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by Applejinx »

aerosmile wrote: post #53
isochronous wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's more than one explanation as to why "mainstream media" might not run a story. The NY Post isn't exactly known as a bastion of credible journalism. That's why they ran the Hunter Biden laptop story when everyone else passed because they couldn't verify it.

I agree with the overall sentiment of your post, but using the Hunter Biden laptop story as an example is an unfortunate choice. There's a popular view that politics had a lot to do with who picked up the story and who didn't, as opposed to just the strength of the case itself. I would recommend picking a less controversial example that highlights the shortcomings of NY Post's journalism, such as their reporting on t…

Or, it could be a garbage story manufactured by liars, implying that of all the outlets not running it, there's a chance they had looked into it and decided it was a garbage story manufactured by liars.

Sometimes a thing that fails, fails because it's bad or disingenuous or both. It's possible this is a garbage suit that won't go anywhere because it's a garbage suit.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by trianglem »

stretchcat wrote: post #89
Hello71 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that the NCSE (formerly known as Morality in Media) is completely against pornography of any type.

Why is that worth noting?

Because if they are biased against pornography they have a motive to call things child pornography even when it’s not.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by javajosh »

I remember a story about someone getting arrested for "child porn" going through an airport when some TSA agent found a video of a mans kids taking a bath on his phone. I'm not sure what happened in that case, but it has made me a) hesitant to take similar video and photos of my kids (even though bathtime is really fun and I want memories! My parents have plenty of bathtime pics of me as a kid, and I'm glad!), and b) a lot more skeptical whenever I hear someone claim "child porn". Similar to how "registered sex offender" has lost a great deal of weight since apparently cities around the country apply this label to drunk people pissing on buildings.

This doesn't invalidate ALL such labels, it only means that the label itself is NOT ENOUGH for me to assume I know what happened. In short, "the system" has lost its credibility with me. (The same applies to other labels like "convicted felon" or "ever arrested". The ease with which these labels are applied, especially as the result of a corrupt plea bargain culture, and a society where all LEOs have a "marshal law bubble" around them, ruin the effect for me. And I wish it ruined the effect for more people.)

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by kenjackson »

dx87 wrote: post #79
Gunax wrote: post #68

Folks, let's assume that the Twitter mod saw this and did not classify it as child porn. How can a twitter mod decide if it's child porn (as opposed to just 'porn')? I am not sure there is a proper solution for this. How can they verify the age of an unknown person?

They could just remove it if they can't tell, same way a bouncer will throw you out of a bar if you don't have ID. I don't know why people are giving social media companies a pass on what goes on just because their job is hard. Nobody is holding a gun to their head and telling them that they need to run an unmanageable platform, they wanted this many users.

Maybe they do remove it if they can't tell. We don't know. Maybe they contacted the source of the video and they confirmed the age of the actors. Then what?

I didn't even know that Twitter had porn at all. It seems like it might be in their best interest to remove it altogether. There are sites that specialize in it, that I'd have to imagine are better sources for most people.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by trianglem »

Nextgrid wrote: post #49
the_drunkard wrote: post #2

The victim actually took steps to have content removed and Twitter failed to do so (initially). I wonder if payment vendors will give Twitter the "Pornhub treatment" and de-platform their access to financial services. > Finally on Jan. 28, Twitter replied to Doe and said they wouldn’t be taking down the material, which had already racked up over 167,000 views and 2,223 retweets, the suit states. > “Thanks for reachin…

The whole deplatforming thing is mostly virtue-signalling. PornHub is an easy target and the people & companies involved in its deplatforming do not need it in any way (at least not in a way they would publicly admit - I'm sure some of them do consume its content) so it's an easy call to make and can gather significant support from certain conservative and religious circles. Twitter on the other hand is near-essentia…

Is virtue signaling being a good person through your actions?

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by throwawayosiu1 »

ah, maybe it's time we deplatform Twitter no?

maybe it's tongue in cheek but in all honesty, I find it extremely hypocritical that the Ayatollah of Iran, dis-information news organizations (esp those based in China) and now CP are fine on Twitter but god forbid some people on the right wing use the "#notmypresident" or "#learntocode" hashtags - both of which were extensively used by the left in 2016 without any repercussions what so ever.

I don't mind Twitter having it's policies (Infact I support it)- but selective enforcement of said policies is the issue.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by stretchcat »

trianglem wrote: post #92
stretchcat wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that worth noting?

Because if they are biased against pornography they have a motive to call things child pornography even when it’s not.

Why would they waste their time in court bringing a lawsuit that would immediately get tossed? They'd hardly be able to conceal the age of a child from the court. The court will know who the child is, even though journalists will (of course!) not be told.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by ghastmaster »

dragontamer wrote: post #36
dragonwriter wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is not some algorithmic failure that no human saw -it was specifically examined by a human with managers setting policy, and deemed to be acceptable to distribute. Or, you know, the claims in the lawsuit are false. This wouldn't be the first time that happened.

Considering that this is NYPost, its quite possible. I don't really consider NYPost to be a very respectable institution.

> I don't really consider NYPost to be a very respectable institution.

Why is that?

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by trianglem »

trident5000 wrote: post #21
tiagod wrote: post #6

I've had this happen to me on Facebook. Found a disgusting video involving children, reported it, got a response that there's nothing wrong with it. It's like the people reviewing this stuff have only a second to decide if the content should be deleted.

Its a bunch of slave labor people in India who dont give a shit. Its an interesting dynamic that we have foreigners deciding what content Americans can and cannot see and can and cannot say.

India has a very low cost of living. Getting paid an average wage for the country you live in is not “slave” labor. If you use that term freely for things it doesn’t apply to, people stop taking it as seriously.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by 35fbe7d3d5b9 »

throwawaysea wrote: post #78

I've noticed that Twitter is very arbitrary in terms of what they moderate and don't moderate. I've seen accounts for antifa groups or other groups engaged in criminality and violence several times, and no action has been taken on my reports. Invariably, the reports that aren't acted upon are ones involving groups that align with left-leaning political sentiments. This type of selective enforcement of rules is extrem…

Funny, a common refrain of those very accounts is "Twitter overmoderates left wing accounts and does nothing with right wing hate speech".

I think this doesn't point to Twitter being arbitrary; instead, I think it points to Twitter doing absolutely nothing until its hand is forced.

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