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Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by splaytreemap »

fakedang wrote: post #4
the_drunkard wrote: post #2

The victim actually took steps to have content removed and Twitter failed to do so (initially). I wonder if payment vendors will give Twitter the "Pornhub treatment" and de-platform their access to financial services. > Finally on Jan. 28, Twitter replied to Doe and said they wouldn’t be taking down the material, which had already racked up over 167,000 views and 2,223 retweets, the suit states. > “Thanks for reachin…

Unfortunately, mainstream media won't pick on it, nor will the story gain traction because it is published in the NY Post. (if it is true) Edit:- to the folks down voting me, please show me some major outlets (NYT, BBC, etc) reporting on this. As far as we are concerned, this kind of stuff should be news.

The mainstream media won't pick this up because they like Twitter. If Facebook had done this, WaPo and CNN would be all over it.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by isochronous »

newbie578 wrote: post #34

Now then, I expect a swift retribution from other companies to do the "right" thing and banish Twitter from our reach. Remove them from Google searches, de-platform them from the App Store and cut their access to hosting services. They have failed to moderate their platform, in fact in this case it seems they did on the contrary, so it is only just they get their part of punishment.

Truly a disingenuous argument.

Parler didn't get TOS'd because they had things fall through their moderation process; they got TOS'd because they did not have a workable moderation process in place, period. Twitter obviously does make mistakes - both AIs and humans are fallible - but they have about as good a moderation process in place as it's possible to have with the amount of message traffic they process.

Also, I'd like to point out that the only evidence WE'VE seen of this so far are a few claims made in a lawsuit.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by aerosmile »

isochronous wrote: post #38
fakedang wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, mainstream media won't pick on it, nor will the story gain traction because it is published in the NY Post. (if it is true) Edit:- to the folks down voting me, please show me some major outlets (NYT, BBC, etc) reporting on this. As far as we are concerned, this kind of stuff should be news.

There's more than one explanation as to why "mainstream media" might not run a story. The NY Post isn't exactly known as a bastion of credible journalism. That's why they ran the Hunter Biden laptop story when everyone else passed because they couldn't verify it.

I agree with the overall sentiment of your post, but using the Hunter Biden laptop story as an example is an unfortunate choice. There's a popular view that politics had a lot to do with who picked up the story and who didn't, as opposed to just the strength of the case itself. I would recommend picking a less controversial example that highlights the shortcomings of NY Post's journalism, such as their reporting on the Boston Bombers [1].

[1] https://archives.cjr.org/the_audit/the_new_york_posts_disgra...

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by Hello71 »

BryanBeshore wrote: post #42
jlkuester7 wrote: post #5

During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

Here’s the lawsuit brought by the National Center on Sexual Exploitation: https://www.scribd.com/document/491614044/Doe-v-Twitter

It's worth noting that the NCSE (formerly known as Morality in Media) is completely against pornography of any type.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by rosmax_1337 »

ketamine__ wrote: post #48
rosmax_1337 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You shouldn't compare a small and niche community like HN to a website like Twitter. Twitter is the web equivalent of a public square, where everyone gets an opportunity at a speakers corner, HN is the web equivalent of a club house, or something private like that. There are laws governing public spaces all around the world, like town squares, where people are guaranteed rights to speak. Laws like these need to be ad…

A lot of Twitter users are moving their followers to Substack. Check out what Balaji is doing. The social network MeWe is growing rapidly. There is always room for competition but the people complaining censorship are defeatist.

Not to fall into the category of being "defeatist" even more, but platforms that actually pose a threat to the established social media channels (like Parler did), get a very special kind of treatment by the "FAANG-cartel" as you might have noticed.

The solution is political change, imo, irregardless of all the problems that come with policing a multinational website like Twitter.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by everdrive »

driverdan wrote: post #43
trident5000 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its a bunch of slave labor people in India who dont give a shit. Its an interesting dynamic that we have foreigners deciding what content Americans can and cannot see and can and cannot say.

That's not true. FB has many US moderators, many outsourced to other companies.

>That's not true. FB has many US moderators

Who also have terrible jobs, and impossible work queues.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by 1_2__4 »

I guess in 2021, HNers think the NY Post is a legitimate media outlet straining for objectivity, rather than the tabloid rag that they are. And I guess we'll all have a highly partisan discussion over it despite the Post obviously having a huge axe to grind against Twitter, further calling into question their "reporting".

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by baby »

fernandotakai wrote: post #47
rendall wrote: post #16

It's a story that's so completely outside of my personal experience that I cannot evaluate it In 14 years of holding a Twitter account, I've never seen anything even close to such things on Twitter, and wouldn't use the platform if I did. If I were to see child pornography on Twitter, I would immediately report it to law enforcement and close my account Well, I hope that poor child wins justice.

i've been on twitter for the same time and last year was the first time i saw people talking about "map" which apparently means "minor attracted person"[0]. while searching around i found that there's a LOT of twitter accounts basically spewing pedophilia-related/adjacent stuff. i reported every single one of them and... nothing was done. not a single one was removed. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor-attracted…

Write an article about it

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by jeffbee »

anonAndOn wrote: post #44
jeffbee wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't ban Trump "without batting an eye" they dickered about it for four entire years while he trampled all over their AUP and they didn't bother banning him until he literally tried to incite a civil war, and even then it's clear that the only reason they banned him is that it didn't work. If somehow Trump's ridiculous little revolt had succeeded in installing him as president again, Twitter would have kept hi…

Different take: they only banned him because he was headed out the door. Had Trump been re-elected, we likely would've seen 4 more years of dithering so as not to piss off a man who could make their lives very stressful.

I think that's the same take. Twitter waited until Trump was definitely deposed before they took action.
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