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Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by shakna »

fakedang wrote: post #4
the_drunkard wrote: post #2

The victim actually took steps to have content removed and Twitter failed to do so (initially). I wonder if payment vendors will give Twitter the "Pornhub treatment" and de-platform their access to financial services. > Finally on Jan. 28, Twitter replied to Doe and said they wouldn’t be taking down the material, which had already racked up over 167,000 views and 2,223 retweets, the suit states. > “Thanks for reachin…

Unfortunately, mainstream media won't pick on it, nor will the story gain traction because it is published in the NY Post. (if it is true) Edit:- to the folks down voting me, please show me some major outlets (NYT, BBC, etc) reporting on this. As far as we are concerned, this kind of stuff should be news.

> Edit:- to the folks down voting me, please show me some major outlets (NYT, BBC, etc) reporting on this. As far as we are concerned, this kind of stuff should be news.

The story is only a few hours old. "Mainstream" media often requires a level of verification that may take a few more days before you see their stories happen.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by BryanBeshore »

jlkuester7 wrote: post #5

During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

Here’s the lawsuit brought by the National Center on Sexual Exploitation:

https://www.scribd.com/document/491614044/Doe-v-Twitter

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by driverdan »

trident5000 wrote: post #21
tiagod wrote: post #6

I've had this happen to me on Facebook. Found a disgusting video involving children, reported it, got a response that there's nothing wrong with it. It's like the people reviewing this stuff have only a second to decide if the content should be deleted.

Its a bunch of slave labor people in India who dont give a shit. Its an interesting dynamic that we have foreigners deciding what content Americans can and cannot see and can and cannot say.

That's not true. FB has many US moderators, many outsourced to other companies.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by anonAndOn »

jeffbee wrote: post #33
d33lio wrote: post #14

Even as someone who's glad Biden is now president - it's a bit unnerving to be living in a time where a service bans the sitting united states president without batting an eye but engages in legal battles to defend the distribution of child pornography on their "open platform". I guess people posting spicy takes on government happens to be more of an active risk to society than literal child predators?

They didn't ban Trump "without batting an eye" they dickered about it for four entire years while he trampled all over their AUP and they didn't bother banning him until he literally tried to incite a civil war, and even then it's clear that the only reason they banned him is that it didn't work. If somehow Trump's ridiculous little revolt had succeeded in installing him as president again, Twitter would have kept hi…

Different take: they only banned him because he was headed out the door. Had Trump been re-elected, we likely would've seen 4 more years of dithering so as not to piss off a man who could make their lives very stressful.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by d1zzy »

the_drunkard wrote: post #2

The victim actually took steps to have content removed and Twitter failed to do so (initially). I wonder if payment vendors will give Twitter the "Pornhub treatment" and de-platform their access to financial services. > Finally on Jan. 28, Twitter replied to Doe and said they wouldn’t be taking down the material, which had already racked up over 167,000 views and 2,223 retweets, the suit states. > “Thanks for reachin…

I hope this doesn't result in Twitter banning all adult content which seems to be how all platforms handle pedophilia lawsuits/legal pressure these days.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by trident5000 »

driverdan wrote: post #43
trident5000 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its a bunch of slave labor people in India who dont give a shit. Its an interesting dynamic that we have foreigners deciding what content Americans can and cannot see and can and cannot say.

That's not true. FB has many US moderators, many outsourced to other companies.

I think the odds of US moderators being any sort of majority or anything close to that is slim to zero. The savings are astronomical and is the same reason customer support of all kinds, even IT help, is outsourced. US mods are most likely a minority and a face.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by fernandotakai »

rendall wrote: post #16

It's a story that's so completely outside of my personal experience that I cannot evaluate it In 14 years of holding a Twitter account, I've never seen anything even close to such things on Twitter, and wouldn't use the platform if I did. If I were to see child pornography on Twitter, I would immediately report it to law enforcement and close my account Well, I hope that poor child wins justice.

i've been on twitter for the same time and last year was the first time i saw people talking about "map" which apparently means "minor attracted person"[0].

while searching around i found that there's a LOT of twitter accounts basically spewing pedophilia-related/adjacent stuff. i reported every single one of them and... nothing was done. not a single one was removed.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor-attracted_person

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by ketamine__ »

rosmax_1337 wrote: post #39
ketamine__ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are banned from HN all the time for being rude. Does the reason even matter though? Twitter can decide who uses its services and who doesn't as long as it doesn't violate existing laws.

You shouldn't compare a small and niche community like HN to a website like Twitter. Twitter is the web equivalent of a public square, where everyone gets an opportunity at a speakers corner, HN is the web equivalent of a club house, or something private like that. There are laws governing public spaces all around the world, like town squares, where people are guaranteed rights to speak. Laws like these need to be ad…

A lot of Twitter users are moving their followers to Substack. Check out what Balaji is doing.

The social network MeWe is growing rapidly. There is always room for competition but the people complaining censorship are defeatist.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by Nextgrid »

the_drunkard wrote: post #2

The victim actually took steps to have content removed and Twitter failed to do so (initially). I wonder if payment vendors will give Twitter the "Pornhub treatment" and de-platform their access to financial services. > Finally on Jan. 28, Twitter replied to Doe and said they wouldn’t be taking down the material, which had already racked up over 167,000 views and 2,223 retweets, the suit states. > “Thanks for reachin…

The whole deplatforming thing is mostly virtue-signalling.

PornHub is an easy target and the people & companies involved in its deplatforming do not need it in any way (at least not in a way they would publicly admit - I'm sure some of them do consume its content) so it's an easy call to make and can gather significant support from certain conservative and religious circles.

Twitter on the other hand is near-essential to most brands and media outlets, so the virtue-signalling benefit from deplatforming it is minuscule compared to the loss (the people most vocal in support of PornHub's deplatforming would be the first ones out of a job), not to mention that virtue-signalling only works if you have a place to brag about your action - if you deplatform Twitter, where are you going to brag about it?

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

jlkuester7 wrote: post #5

During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

Maybe it's the headline that is misleading you, or it's a symptom of our times.

In any case: it should be blatantly obvious that the Twitter representative did not know or agree that the person in the video was a minor. The insinuation that it's Twitter policy to distribute child pornography is laughable. They have absolutely nothing to gain from it.

As to liability: Section 230 is about exactly that situation: trying to limit damaging material on your platform does not create any liability even if you fail. Because the alternative, where you either allow your platform to be flooded with swastikas and pornography or get sued for every single mistake you make, is unworkable.

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