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Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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I left Intel years ago to get almost 3x the salary as a software developer at... a bank. At Intel engineers are paid supposedly similar rates at similar levels and similar locations. And given my level (two levels above Senior Developer) I estimate I was paid better than at least 90% engineers. Where I worked in R&D the doors were constantly revolving and many people admitted they wait to register enough of prestigio…

I've been approached by headhunters for contract work at Intel. They want all kinds of machine learning knowledge & experience and the pay is.... $45/hr. I kid you not. I just sort of laugh and tell them that that's about 1/3 of market rate for that kind of thing.

I am 100% in the same boat. Had a recruiter reach out to me who wanted me to leave my more than comfortable six figure SV job to do cutting edge contract work in machine learning as a lead engineer for about $50/hour. I was so amused I actually spent the time listening to their pitch and eventually told them that anything less than $200/hour wouldn't even cover my current pay + benefits. Let me know if you can do better. They hung up. Lol

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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I've been approached by headhunters for contract work at Intel. They want all kinds of machine learning knowledge & experience and the pay is.... $45/hr. I kid you not. I just sort of laugh and tell them that that's about 1/3 of market rate for that kind of thing.

$45/hr is about what I was paid as a grad-student intern at Apple ... 15 years ago.

I have a salary that would work our to less than $45/hr, with extra hours dragging it down further.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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This is an encouraging move. My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company. I've been part of a similar downhill slide at a smaller company in the billion dollar revenue range. To be blunt, once the [mediocre] MBAs start realizing that the engineers are getting paid more…

Ex-Intel perspective: There is also a lot of work that needs to be done at Intel which requires mediocre engineers by the thousands. Intel does pay well to their top engineers which climb up in the ranks.

The engineer working on CAD, layout, specs, RFQs, Suppliers, Equipment, etc are hardly going to revolutionize anything. Their work is valuable but they’re entirely replaceable.

For every top engineer, you need 20 minions to execute. Folks who think otherwise haven’t really worked in a large company. In the words of Jim Keller - “It’s craftsman’s work. It’s fun.”

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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> suffered an unfortunate accident scheduled or unscheduled?

I actually had a loop in background that would kill -9 various services every few seconds until I finally got them all uninstalled.

If you can kill -9 it sounds like it could have been uninstalled?

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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I don't think it is. I got approached by consulting companies and recruiters to work on embedded development for Intel, including on-site work in Santa Clara, CA and travel to Asia. The hourly rate was 60 and days in Asia were 250 each plus accommodations. I've never done a trip to Asia were I was working less than 10 hours per day.

Amazon software development interns (undergrad) in SF get $65/hr + a housing stipend. 60/hr seems far too low

I have 9 years experience, an MSIS, and make a salary that works out to less than $45/hr, but of course there are benefits.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Reading all comments grilling MBAs in HN is one of my guilty pleasures. I think I need to collect them all and put them in one place.

I worked at a startup that was acquired by an unsexy behemoth. It was not covered in TechCrunch. We had a sales guy who easily cleared over $1MM in salary and bonuses, several times the CEO and founders, because he went above and beyond, closing $15MM of new business a year. When the MBA consultants and salespeople from the acquirer found out, they couldn’t believe he made that much — all while they personally manage…

"I have a master's degree and I went to , therefore no one's supposed to make more money than me!"

We need to get people out of this kind of thinking, and the sooner the better.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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> The effect of Gelsinger taking the CEO role pushed a hire that was on the fence into accepting the role. That's what he says and it is probably true. But it could also be true that saying so would put him in good graces with the new CEO and he would basically be expected by everyone to say that's what pushed him over the edge even if it wasn't, so him saying so adds little new information.

I seriously doubt that. He could have just stayed retired. If the negotiation was all smooth he would have been working with Intel by now. Remember he was retired, he doesn't need 30 / 60 days notice to anyone apart from family. Intel needed help, but sometimes even money cant move some people. They fail to attract any talent, especially those who have already worked in Intel and knows their culture. Having Pat meant…

The timing of his acceptance adds information and makes me lean towards the explanation being true. The statement of the explanation adds very little information though.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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I've been approached by headhunters for contract work at Intel. They want all kinds of machine learning knowledge & experience and the pay is.... $45/hr. I kid you not. I just sort of laugh and tell them that that's about 1/3 of market rate for that kind of thing.

Wow. I make less than $45/hr (salary with extra hours dragging it down further, but with benefits). Edit for background: I have 9 years experience, an MSIS working at a financial company.

If that's as a developer in a US city that's pretty underpaid
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