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Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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post #6

I've had this happen to me on Facebook. Found a disgusting video involving children, reported it, got a response that there's nothing wrong with it. It's like the people reviewing this stuff have only a second to decide if the content should be deleted.

Its a bunch of slave labor people in India who dont give a shit. Its an interesting dynamic that we have foreigners deciding what content Americans can and cannot see and can and cannot say.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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post #16

It's a story that's so completely outside of my personal experience that I cannot evaluate it In 14 years of holding a Twitter account, I've never seen anything even close to such things on Twitter, and wouldn't use the platform if I did. If I were to see child pornography on Twitter, I would immediately report it to law enforcement and close my account Well, I hope that poor child wins justice.

Welcome to the filter bubble. What you see on twitter, facebook, google, youtube, etc. is going to be radically different than what someone else sees.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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This all sounds reasonable to me. Seems like the victim's first recourse should be through the Law not Twitter. >but the tech giant failed to do anything about it until a federal law enforcement officer got involved, the suit states. >A support agent followed up and asked for a copy of Doe’s ID so they could prove it was him and after the teen complied, there was no response for a week, the family claims. >Only after…

I am confused. What part of "We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time" seems reasonable? Personally this kind of content moderation seems to be the most important and it is absurd that Twitter should wait to remove this content until they are contacted by law enforcement. Certainly the best thing might have been a "both/and" approach where the vi…

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Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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post #6

I've had this happen to me on Facebook. Found a disgusting video involving children, reported it, got a response that there's nothing wrong with it. It's like the people reviewing this stuff have only a second to decide if the content should be deleted.

After 3 or 4 of these rejections I stopped reporting.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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This all sounds reasonable to me. Seems like the victim's first recourse should be through the Law not Twitter. >but the tech giant failed to do anything about it until a federal law enforcement officer got involved, the suit states. >A support agent followed up and asked for a copy of Doe’s ID so they could prove it was him and after the teen complied, there was no response for a week, the family claims. >Only after…

If it was me, I’d have probably gone straight to Twitter too. My thought would be that they’re hosting the content, so they’d probably be able to get it removed the fastest. It also wouldn’t occur to me that an agent wouldn’t find CP to violate their terms. I’m surprised that Twitter didn’t take it down as a CYA precaution while they verified it to be CP or not.

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Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

Exactly, aside from the civil liability already being pursued in the reported lawsuit, there should also be criminal liability for people making those editorial judgements, as far up the management chain as it goes.

This is not some algorithmic failure that no human saw -it was specifically examined by a human with managers setting policy, and deemed to be acceptable to distribute.

At that point, they are willfully distributing the material, and should be held accountable.

Yes, the result may be harsh. Ideally, there would be advance notice of the potential legal jeopardy, but ignorance of the law is never an excuse, and child porn distribution is widely known to be illegal. Standard pull in the workers and get them to flip on the managers, repeat all the way up the chain as far as it goes.

It should now be obvious to anyone that internet discussions are either moderated/edited, or will descend into toxic cesspools when any of a variety of bad actors are allowed to run unchecked.

The hosts need to be responsible for their editing decisions, which are made at far larger scale than any newspaper or broadcaster.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

I think you're talking about Parler, not Parlor which is a very different app.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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post #14

Even as someone who's glad Biden is now president - it's a bit unnerving to be living in a time where a service bans the sitting united states president without batting an eye but engages in legal battles to defend the distribution of child pornography on their "open platform". I guess people posting spicy takes on government happens to be more of an active risk to society than literal child predators?

People are banned from HN all the time for being rude. Does the reason even matter though? Twitter can decide who uses its services and who doesn't as long as it doesn't violate existing laws.

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

I think you're talking about Parler, not Parlor which is a very different app.

Shoot, you are right. Fixed!

Re: Twitter sued for allegedly refusing to remove child porn

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post #26

During all the recent debates regarding Parler, much was said about how Parler needed effective moderation like Twitter. This article is an important reminder that there is a lot more room for improvement in the moderation space and even companies that "do it right" are still making glaring mistakes. > We’ve reviewed the content, and didn’t find a violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time Thi…

Exactly, aside from the civil liability already being pursued in the reported lawsuit, there should also be criminal liability for people making those editorial judgements, as far up the management chain as it goes. This is not some algorithmic failure that no human saw -it was specifically examined by a human with managers setting policy, and deemed to be acceptable to distribute. At that point, they are willfully d…

> This is not some algorithmic failure that no human saw -it was specifically examined by a human with managers setting policy, and deemed to be acceptable to distribute.

Or, you know, the claims in the lawsuit are false.

This wouldn't be the first time that happened.

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