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Why cats are crazy for catnip

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Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#81

Maybe this is a weird question, but why do people give drugs to their cats? Is it to see them have fun? Is it so the owners have fun? Is it good for them? I never quite understood why catnip was so socially acceptable when we view other drugs with such different eyes.

"I never quite understood why catnip was so socially acceptable when we view other drugs with such different eyes."

Do you treat "drugs are bad" as an axiomatic statement, or do you accept "drugs are bad" as the contingent conclusion of a series of more fundamental statements?

We drill the former into (young) children because it is true enough for them, and they aren't ready for the latter.

If you can understand the latter, then take the underlying statements, and apply them to the cats. You'll find most of them simply don't apply to cats. Maybe a couple of them slightly do, but none of them work like humans. Humans have a unique capacity to be affected by drugs due to our superb executive functioning. Non-humans are all but incapable of bending their entire life around drug-seeking behavior the way we are partially because we're really good at making them, and also because we're uniquely good at refining them. (It's a long cognitive distance from "let the fruit sit a while to taste fun" to "let's build a still!".)

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

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Is the high similar to heroin/morphine etc in humans? Because if it is, then is catnip not addictive to a cat? What if a cat discovers whole fields of the stuff and decided to revel in it until death? It's unlikely but it could happen

My parents grow large bushes of catnip. The cat walks up to the bush, chews it some, and passes out in the bush. Seems to enjoy himself.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're misreading that paragraph. It is specifically saying the euphoria is not the _only_ reason that cats roll around in catnip.

The "rather" connotes mutually exclusive alternatives, doesn't it? (I'm not a native speaker.)

I think it translates best to "echter" in this context. Which doesn't necessarily exclude other possibilities.

However the sentence can simply be read in two ways. Both interpretations are equally valid.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#84
So an insect repellent that cats, big or small are going to be attracted to?

I mean, I don't think I'd want to put that insect repellent in the savannah, north america or a place that has lots of feral cats.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're misreading that paragraph. It is specifically saying the euphoria is not the _only_ reason that cats roll around in catnip.

The "rather" connotes mutually exclusive alternatives, doesn't it? (I'm not a native speaker.)

Native English speaker here.

I read it as qualifying the degree of functionality in the rolling behaviour. That is: the rolling behaviour is functional to a significant extent, but is not entirely functional.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

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post #58

Maybe this is a weird question, but why do people give drugs to their cats? Is it to see them have fun? Is it so the owners have fun? Is it good for them? I never quite understood why catnip was so socially acceptable when we view other drugs with such different eyes.

For the same reason I smoke weed. They clearly love it and it has no adverse effects (just don't let them eat it, use it in toys).

> has no adverse effects

I used to think that too. And I still smoke ( hash, which is different ).

However, it does make me complacent, which sometimes make me endure situations I would otherwise change.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all humans view drugs in the same manner. In some locales, it is accepted to use drugs recreationally. Other places deem that same usage unacceptable. If you look at the similarity in the gov'ts that deem that usage as unacceptable, there's a common overall belief that is not scientifically based.

Some sort of drug is usually acceptable culturally. Alcohol, very widely. Cannabis, more recently. Mild drugs like coffee. "Prescribed recreationals" like xanax in some circles. In many places Hashish or opium are still seen as traditional/acceptable. I grew up in Israel, where qat is legal, seen as equivalent to coffee and culturally acceptable. It's fairly common as an ornamental plant. Giving your cat whiskey woul…

As far as anyone knows, catnip is completely nontoxic to cats, but ethanol certainly is toxic. Cats also simply don't like the smell of alcohol.

Eating very large quantities of catnip can give them gastrointestinal discomfort though.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#89

Maybe this is a weird question, but why do people give drugs to their cats? Is it to see them have fun? Is it so the owners have fun? Is it good for them? I never quite understood why catnip was so socially acceptable when we view other drugs with such different eyes.

Along the same lines, does it gives cats a “hangover” of sorts afterwards? The article describes catnip as similar to heroin for humans. I’ve never done heroin but I would imagine the withdrawal is really unpleasant which is what then causes addiction. Do cats experience the same come down? Can cats get addicted to catnip if they have access to an unlimited supply?

I bought a ton of catnip and my cat seemed to become indifferent to it pretty quickly. Maybe it just dried out, though.

Re: Why cats are crazy for catnip

#90

Maybe this is a weird question, but why do people give drugs to their cats? Is it to see them have fun? Is it so the owners have fun? Is it good for them? I never quite understood why catnip was so socially acceptable when we view other drugs with such different eyes.

Your post reminded me of this humorous drug education film parody: https://vimeo.com/44733000

I clicked on that fully expecting it to be the demonstration of various drugs on spiders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HipedgM3I
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