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What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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The primary beef this seemed to have with Thiel was that he was "withdrawing consent" from democracy, believing it to be incompatible with liberty.

Not good for the writer of the article that Thiel is technically correct. Divine right of the mob is no better than the divine right of kings, oligarchs or whatever else.

Anyone can look around and see that democratic government is just as capable of genocide and police-statery as the next.

They go on to criticize him for committing heresy against public education and our university system. I'd think the users of HN would realize by now that a degree doesn't necessarily imply someone is smart or has skills needed to do some job.

They finish off with the usual "libertarians are all selfish" argument. They then hold up other members of the elite as an example of not being selfish >snickerThis is clearly just a hit piece to make people holding a particular worldview feel good and find a new enemy to attack. There's no concrete criticisms here, nor is the interview here in depth enough for you to understand his context or worldview.

Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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This is just a hatchet job, barely worthy of newsweek, let alone HN.

Is there anything in it that's false? I ask because literally everything I've heard about the guy is negative.

That's just the loud minority. There are also many libertarianism fans on HN ;)

Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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This is just a hatchet job, barely worthy of newsweek, let alone HN.

Is there anything in it that's false? I ask because literally everything I've heard about the guy is negative.

Everything? You make it sound like he's a child rapist or something.

Has he ever tried to violently force his worldview on anyone? No. Is he a criminal? No.

Is he trying to advance his own agenda, like anybody else? Yes. This is the same kind of demagoguery used against rock and roll music; they're afraid his evil ideas will corrupt our poor citizenry!

It treats the reader as a mindless lump unable to think for himself. That might work on TV, but not on the internet.

Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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This is just a hatchet job, barely worthy of newsweek, let alone HN.

Is there anything in it that's false? I ask because literally everything I've heard about the guy is negative.

Who can tell? The ideological vasoline is smeared on the lens so thick I can't see the subject anymore.

Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anything in it that's false? I ask because literally everything I've heard about the guy is negative.

Who can tell? The ideological vasoline is smeared on the lens so thick I can't see the subject anymore.

I don't understand. Are there statements you think are factually inaccurate? Or do you just not like the spin?

Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anything in it that's false? I ask because literally everything I've heard about the guy is negative.

Everything? You make it sound like he's a child rapist or something. Has he ever tried to violently force his worldview on anyone? No. Is he a criminal? No. Is he trying to advance his own agenda, like anybody else? Yes. This is the same kind of demagoguery used against rock and roll music; they're afraid his evil ideas will corrupt our poor citizenry! It treats the reader as a mindless lump unable to think for himse…

Everything? You make it sound like he's a child rapist or something. Has he ever tried to violently force his worldview on anyone? No. Is he a criminal? No.

That's a pretty low bar.

Is he trying to advance his own agenda, like anybody else? Yes.

But again, that's not the bar. It's what your agenda is that is at issue. Otherwise you don't differentiate between anyone since everyone is just advancing their own agenda.

It treats the reader as a mindless lump unable to think for himself.

That doesn't make sense. It presents facts and an opinion. That's pretty much the standard used in most forms of effective communication on the internet (and TV for that matter).

Re: What's Wrong With Silicon Valley Libertarianism?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who can tell? The ideological vasoline is smeared on the lens so thick I can't see the subject anymore.

I don't understand. Are there statements you think are factually inaccurate? Or do you just not like the spin?

I reject the burden of proof you are implying. I'm saying this is such a terrible article it's not worth anybody's time to read. An article with the same factual content but less of the author's obvious issues may very well be worth reading, one that isn't an obvious hatchet job. I have no idea what the factual status of the article's various claims are. Indeed, that is my point; as a hatchet job it is basically information free, because hatchet jobs are untrustworthy.

I don't care who is getting the hatchet job. They are never useful, or worth your time. I have no idea how deserved it may be or not, no more at the end of reading it than at the beginning.

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